Le Sanglais

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Oddly enough I've heard the word recently used by a Lakota speaker in
Standing Rock to refer to Ojibway (and Cree I think) people on her own
reservation.  Possibly the association is with Canadians and hence
British On 4 Nov 2003 at 17:07, Anthony Grant wrote:

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From:           	"Anthony Grant" <Granta at edgehill.ac.uk>
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Subject:        	RE: Le Sanglais

> No they didn't.  They derive from French 'les anglais', whch was
> modified with the addtion of the Ojibwa pejorative -sha (according to
> Ives Goddard).  The term occurs in a number of Algonquian and Siouan
> languages, and indeed I gave a paper on this very topic, entitled
> 'French, British and Indian', (in my pre-Microsoft days) at a SSILA
> meeting at Alberquerque in summer 1995.
>
> Anthony Grant
>
> >>> lcumberl at indiana.edu 04/11/2003 16:56:04 >>>
> I have often wondered if these terms didn't derive from some variant of
> sassenax
> or saghenax (I'm not sure of the exact form), which was a Scottish
> derogatory
> term for the British.
>
> Linda
>
> Quoting Louis Garcia <Louis_Garcia at littlehoop.cc>:
>
> >
> >
> > Hi Gang:
> > I thought I would interject my two cents here.
> > The Dakota here at Ft. Totten use the term sahda, sometimes sahdas'a
> for the
> > Metis.
> > The Nakota (I know there are problems using this term) here say
> sagkda.
> > Years ago when most of the old timers who had gone to school with the
> Metis
> > were still alive, they hated the metis guts because they were
> punished more
> > than the Metis. They really drew out the pronunciation in contempt.
> > Thankfully this animosity has changed, and everyone jokes with each
> other.
> > Years ago I asked James H. Howard about these terms and he said the
> term was
> > from Gaelic, learned from the British soldiers during the French and
> Indian
> > wars through the War of 1812.
> > Was he correct?
> > Later,
> > LouieG
> >
> >
> >
>