Vice President Curtis's chair again.

[Carolyn Q.]

Thanks, Bob.  I agree there's a lot to consider in analyzing the spectrograms.  I had already pulled Ladefoged's A Course in Phonetics to review the spectrograph stuff.  I hadn't reviewed this in many years.

(I had this as one of the only two texts we used in grad school, the other being  a Montague grammar text.  Alan Prince on day one said, here's this book which I expect you all to know the facts in, so we'll test on it in two weeks.  This also may have been the only test we had, i can't remember any others.)

At the same time, I'm still struggling with the software and trying to finish up the umpteenth round of simple editing.  Then at the end I'll use a search and replace function to lengthen any vowels detected to be long by Praat and our analysis.  Are you interested in trying to schedule the Praat short course for sometime next month?

Thanks,
Carolyn

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Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 12:53 PM
To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
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I'll get it xeroxed and out in the next day or two.  I think what happened is
that Justin just forwarded Crystal the email exchanges (or maybe I had sent him
a copy of the Siouan Conf. paper from Michigan), and she just sort of summarized
things.

You might want to pick up an introductory text book on acoustic phonetics to
refer to when you use Praat and other software.  I know that accented vowels are
inherently longer than unaccented ones; vowels in open syllables are inherently
longer than the same vowels in closed syllables; lower vowels are inherently
longer than high vowels, but I don't know the details.  There may also be
inherent differences between nasal vowels and the corresponding oral ones (with
the nasal V's longer).  And if you have long and short vowels, they'll measure
out differently in the different environments, i.e., a short, accented vowel may
actually be longer in milliseconds than an unaccented long vowel in a closed
syllable, etc.  You have to figure out the various contexts and then measure all
the contrasting vowels, both long and short, in that context.  I expect you knew
all of this, but there are lots of details to consider, and I haven't really
begun to look at most of them.

Cheers,

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carolyn Q." <cqcqcq1 at earthlink.net>
To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: Vice President Curtis's chair again.


> I would like a copy, thanks.
> Carolyn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu
> [mailto:owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu]On Behalf Of R. Rankin
> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 7:40 PM
> To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
> Subject: Vice President Curtis's chair again.
>
>
> I've just received the latest copy of the "Kanza News", the newsletter of the
> Kaw Nation, and it features a cover photo of the chair that has the seal we
> discussed on the list last year.  There is also an article on the chair inside
> by Crystal Douglas, the staff archaeologist for the Kaws and curator of their
> museum.  She basically quotes a lot of the material we exchanged and mentions
> Carolyn Quintero, John Koontz, Rory Larson and Louis Garcia (and myself) by
> name.  If any of those mentioned would like a copy of the article, I can mail
> you one if I have your postal address.
>
> The article doesn't really add to what we already knew, except for a photo of
> the whole chair, but it's nice to have the publicity.
>
> Bob
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