dorsey film conversion questions and estimate

[Tom Leonard]

If it's of any help, I ordered my 8 Dorsey reels with "reverse imaging",
that is black letters on a white background. They were, in my opinion, far
easier to read that way. Perhaps the reverse imaging would enhance the
scanning process? Don't know. If so, I have them available.

Last and lowest estimate I received from a document imaging company was
$0.05 per image. Estimating about 25 images per foot x 100 ft x $0.05 x 8
rolls, that comes to about $125 per roll or $1000 total. From earlier e-mail
on this subject, this might be on the high side.......it may be more like
$75 - $100 per roll.

Can we get 10 or 15 of us to spring for $100 each, or so, for CD's of all 8
rolls? The more of us that chip in ...the lower the price. Anyone
interested?

TML


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark-Awakuni Swetland" <mawakuni-swetland2 at unl.edu>
To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: dorsey film conversion questions and estimate


> Aloha All,
> Additional comments about the JOD 8 reels.
>
> The images are black with white lettering (t.s. and m.s.)
>
> I used a Canon Canonfilmer 100 desktop planetary microfilmer with
> interchangeable recorder unit.
>
> I used 16mm-100ft. AGFA COPEX PAN A.H.U. PET 13 film.
>
> The reduction ratio was:
> 24x for up to 9x12-5/8"
> 32x for up to 11-1/2x16"
> 34x for up to 12-3/4x17-1/2"
> (if any of that makes sense)
>
> Rolls 1-3 (lexicon) are in cinema format. Rolls 4-8 are in comic strip
> format.
>
> The lens on my recycled microfilm reader is not marked for magnification.
> 1-1/2 frames appears on each screen. However, I move the carriage from
side
> to side to focus directly on one card within a four card frame for best
> clarity.
>
> mark
>
>
>
> Mark Awakuni-Swetland, Ph.D.
> University of Nebraska
> Anthropology/Ethnic Studies
> Native American Studies
> Bessey Hall 132
> Lincoln, NE 68588-0368
> 402-472-3455
> FAX 402-472-9642
> mawakuni-swetland2 at unl.edu
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rory M Larson" <rlarson at unlnotes.unl.edu>
> To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 10:59 AM
> Subject: Re: dorsey film conversion questions and estimate
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Pat,
> >
> > > Are the slips individually filmed or several at once? John said there
> > were
> > > actually 20,000 shots on the film for the larger Dhegiha dictionary
> > > material, so I guess individually.
> >
> > I can answer this one, as I recently spent several months
> > plowing through them for acculturation terms.
> >
> > No, the 20,000 figure is rough estimate of the total
> > number of words, and it's probably high.  For the OP
> > dictionary part, we have 3 reels.  Each reel is
> > divided into segments of 10 frames.  Each frame
> > includes typically 4, but often fewer, index card
> > images.  Reel 1 has at least 148 segments; reel 2
> > has at least 175 segments; and reel 3 has at least
> > 222 segments.  So the 20,000 word estimate is built
> > on a calculation like
> >
> >  (148 + 175 + 222) * 10 * 4 = 21,800 words,
> >
> >  minus some for frames with only 2 or 3 cards
> >
> >     = 20,000 words.
> >
> > (There is usually one word per card, but sometimes
> > more.  Also, the cards are generally type-written,
> > though there are many hand-written ones as well,
> > which are not extremely legible.  I suspect Dorsey
> > originally wrote his notes on cards by hand, then
> > typed them on another card, but all these cards
> > were kept and sorted alphabetically in the same
> > deck.  So although the handwritten cards are hard
> > to read, it probably doesn't matter too much as
> > they are only duplicates of words on the type-written
> > cards anyway.  If we suppose each word is represented
> > by both a handwritten card and a type-written card,
> > we should estimate about 10,000 words in the
> > collection.  Considering that many of these are
> > just variously inflected forms of the same verb,
> > a modern dictionary based on the collection would
> > have much fewer basic words, possibly on the order
> > of 5,000.)
> >
> > For total frames, I think we can figure about
> > 5,500.
> >
> > Rory
>