New topic -- stative pronouns with reflexives?

ROOD DAVID S rood at spot.Colorado.EDU
Tue Jan 13 23:44:10 UTC 2004


This is not typologically all that unusual -- Geraldine Legendre has
argued that the reflexive in French is a de-transitivizing morpheme, not a
direct object (cf. the conjugation with "etre", e.g.)  Cross
linguistically both patterns seem to occur.  Of course, I agree that it's
odd to see fairly closely related languages split on this.

David

David S. Rood
Dept. of Linguistics
Univ. of Colorado
295 UCB
Boulder, CO 80309-0295
USA
rood at colorado.edu

On Tue, 13 Jan 2004, Jimm GoodTracks wrote:

> They are in IOM (Chiwere), as well as in Winnebago/ Hochank.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R. Rankin" <rankin at ku.edu>
> To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 3:45 PM
> Subject: New topic -- stative pronouns with reflexives?
>
>
> > At LSA I was talking with David Rood and Soeren Wichmann (from Denmark)
> about
> > Soeren's active-stative LSA paper.  He made the point, confirmed by David,
> that
> > in Dakotan, reflexive verbs take the stative pronominal set as subject
> prefixes.
> > I don't know how that fact escaped me all this time, but I find it very
> strange
> > indeed, since, in Dhegiha, reflexives of active verbs take the active
> subject
> > pronominals exclusively.
> >
> > So my question is:  In the other Siouan languages are subject pronominals
> of
> > active verbs still active when the verb is reflexivized?
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> >
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