Word for 'prairie' in Hochunk.

[R. Rankin]

Yes, and the leading h- is epenthetic, occurring only in WI/HC with these
initial forms.  It's probably that, if we are seeing contracted forms with the
moo- words, contraction took place before epenthesis, since that postdates the
break with Chiwere.  So you wouldn't have to account for the /h/.

Bob

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From: "Rory M Larson" <rlarson at unlnotes.unl.edu>
To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:53 PM
Subject: RE: Word for 'prairie' in Hochunk.


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> Quick tyro question--  Is the leading ho- on (almost) every
> second word of the list below the Hochunk equivalent of
> the MVS locative prefix *o-, OP u-, 'in'?
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> Thanks,
> Rory
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> >In connection with mooska (Miner has mo'osga (moo'sga) 'dessert'), while a
> >loan would be interesting, it is also possible to see this as a compound
> >*maNaN-ska 'white earth'.  If it were a *-ka nominalization of *maNaNs -
> >perhaps a sound symbolism grade of *maNaNx(e) 'field', I think it would be
> >expected to appear as *maNaNske, which it doesn't.  In both these cases
> >I'm also trying to make moo- into maNaN-, perhaps maNaN- 'earth'.  For
> >forms like moowe' 'to walk', or moo's^?ok 'hill, mound', moo'ga 'bank',
> >moo'haj^a 'hard ground', moo'c^i 'cellar' this might work.  The frequent
> >initial accent in these forms is, like the mo sequence, a bit unusual.  I
> >wonder if they might not represent dialect variants.
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> moowe               'to walk, follow a path'
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> maNaN + howe    'earth, ground + follow a path, a path'
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> mooci                 'cellar, den'
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> maNaN + hoc^i      'earth, ground + dwelling, house'
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> mooraje              'visits the earth (Bear Clan Name)'
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> maNaN + horaje   'earth + visit'
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> moos^?ok          'small rounded hill, mound'
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> maNaN + s^?ok   'earth, ground + something rounded, bumplike'
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> mooska              'clearing or field'
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> maNaN + hoska   'earth + clearing or field'
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> I asked these forms of my informants and this is what they were able to
> tell
> me.
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> they couldn't break down mooga, just telling me the entire word means the
> bank of a lake or any water body.
>
> moohaj^a didn't make sense to them as hard ground.  They said it would mean
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> travelling around the world, literally seeing other countries.  But even
> then they would rather say maNaN haja.
> Hard ground could be mooja.  It can be used to refer to hard ground, but
> more specifies a rather well delineated area of land.  They didn't break
> this word down for me.  maNaN + hoja didn't work well for them.  I was
> thinking it could possibly be related to jaa 'be frozen' but the speakers I
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> was with didn't like that analyses.
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> Henning Garvin
> Linguistic research
> Ho-Chunk Nation Language Division
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