Tides (Re: 'eight' some more)

[Rankin, Robert L]

I think they're pretty much established from context as having been on
the Kanawha.  I agree with Alan that 'tide' had a broader usage in
several senses in colonial times when water transportation was more
common.  It took me aback for a moment too though.

I see another contributor came up with the same quotation about the
Monytons.  My citation of Tutelo /maNiN'/ should read /maNniN'/.  Sorry
'bout the typo.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Koontz John E [mailto:John.Koontz at colorado.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 10:20 AM
To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
Subject: Tides (Re: 'eight' some more)


On Sun, 2 May 2004, R. Rankin wrote:
> Maj. General Abraham Wood wrote to John Richards in 1674, "Now ye king

> must goe to give ye monetons a visit which were his friends, mony
> signifiying water and ton great in theire language.  Ye monyton towne
> situated upon a very great river att which place ye tide ebbs and
> flowes...."  (Alvord and Bidgood, 1912, 221)

Would the tide ebb and flow in the Kanawha or Ohio?  This is just a
matter of curiosity, since, even if it wouldn't, there's no obvious
alternative, and I'm certainly not questioning the existence of location
of the Moneton on this or any other basis.  I assume the interest of
tides to the English at this period relates to the possibility of
finding an outlet to the sea across the Appalachians.