Ietan, Iatan, etc.

[R. Rankin]

Yes, Padouca (padunka, padunke, padoke, etc., etc.) is
used by several eastern plains tribes to refer to those
''wild'' folks 'way out West.  It refers variously to
Apaches, Comanches and/or maybe others.  Iatan may be a
similar name from some other source language.  Padouca
has no real, known meaning, but, as Jimm points out, it
gets broken down and ''analyzed'' by various tribes in
their respective languages.

I ain't holding my breath over this one either.   :-)

Bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rory M Larson" <rlarson at unlnotes.unl.edu>
To: <siouan at lists.colorado.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Ietan, Iatan, etc.


> Bob wrote:
>> I guess the next step is to see if ANYbody called
>> the Comanches [ayatan] or the like.
>
> Isn't there a confusion over whether the Padouca
> term applied to the Commanches, or to the Plains
> Apaches, or both?  Perhaps we should be checking
> ethnonyms for Apaches as well as for Commanches.
>
> Haven't found anything hopeful in Omaha (Fletcher
> & La Flesche).
>
> Rory
>
>