Dorsey u circumflex in Biloxi
David Kaufman
dvklinguist2003 at yahoo.com
Wed Feb 2 20:58:13 UTC 2005
Bob,
I guess a lot of my confusion is just from a lack of overall Siouan knowledge at this point, but just to make sure I've got this straight: you're saying that a stressed schwa can only come about from a previously nasalized stressed A. And I suppose there's no reason to suspect that the underlying Siouan sa:pe or sepi (a or e) would have become nasalized in Biloxi, then denasalized again to a stressed schwa. Interesting. What a puzzle!
Thanks for the comments on the ddh as well. Sounds like /d/ is appropriate here.
Dave
"R. Rankin" <rankin at ku.edu> wrote:
The only thing I can add to what I said before is that,
in Ofo, all the instances of stressed schwa that I can
locate are reflexes of denasalized /aN/. Schwa can
come from both nasal and oral /a/ unaccented, but AFAIK
only from stressed nasal A. (The way I know it's a
denasalized aN is by comparing it with cognates in
Biloxi, Tutelo or some more distant Siouan language
with a cognate lexeme).
The term for 'black' can come from either of two
different etyma. *(i)sa:pe or *(i)sepi. I would think
the former would underlie the Biloxi word, but can't
say for sure.
Bob
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Kaufman"
To: "Siouan List"
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 5:29 PM
Subject: Dorsey u circumflex in Biloxi
> Hi all,
>
> Bob, John K, and I have been having some discussion
> re: Biloxi pronunciation and Dorsey's and Swanton's
> diacritic marks. One of these involves their use of
> u-circumflex, which Dorsey and Swanton describe as "u
> in but," which sounds like the schwa to me. I'm
> particularly wondering about its use in the word
> su(circumflex)pi, meaning "black," which according to
> this, should be pronounced something like "suppy".
> This would mean, I think, that perhaps in Biloxi a
> schwa could be stressed. I think Bob mentions Ofo
> having a similar stressed schwa sound. Do any other
> Siouan languages have this schwa sound in stressed
> syllables?
>
> Dave
>
>
>
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