Iowa-Ho-Chunk Languages

[David Costa]

Sorry about that -- should have looked closer. :-(

Actually, I'm not a Siouanist, but I pay attention to the Handbook all the
time!

Dave


> As editor of the Plains volume I feel compelled to note that the Sioux
> synonymy was written by Doug Parks, not Ives Goddard.  I am gratified to
> see the Siouanists pay at least some attention to the Handbook.
>
> Ray DeMallie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu
> [mailto:owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of david costa
> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 3:11 PM
> To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
> Subject: Re: Fw: Iowa-Ho-Chunk Languages
>
> Yes, Goddard lays out the real etymologies for these
> terms on page 749 of the Handbook, volume 13 (Plains), in the
> synonymy section of DeMallie's 'Sioux Until 1850' chapter.
>
> dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "R. Rankin" <rankin at ku.edu>
> Sent: Mar 16, 2005 11:58 AM
> To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
> Subject: Re: Fw: Iowa-Ho-Chunk Languages
>
> Yes, that used to be the common story, but more recent
> work by Goddard seems to show that these old stories
> (widely repeated on dozens of internet sites most of
> which seem to plagiarize from others) were mostly
> untrue, with the term referring to "those who speak a
> different language."  Apparently the two words are
> somewhat similar.  Koontz's web site has probably the
> best discussion:
> http://spot.colorado.edu/~koontz/faq/etymology.htm#Sioux
>
> Bob
>
>>I have read two versions of the origin of Sioux:
>>
>> 1. The word Sioux is a French Canadian rendering of
>> the Ojibway word nadewisou, meaning "treacherous
>> snakes."
>>
>> 2. The word Sioux is taken from the abbreviated
>> Algonquin (Ojibway or Ottawa) compound, nadowe
>> meaning "snake" plus siu meaning "little," and the
>> French Canadian rendering of it was spelled
>> Nadouéssioux.
>
>