"saponi Treaty signers"

[Rankin, Robert L]

The term "Hoontky" is probably 'chief'.  I think this is established in other documents.  It is also spelled "hoontsky" in some documents.  The Tutelo name, below, Mawseeuntky, probably contains the term also -- written "untky".
 
My suspicion is that this is cognate with Mississippi Valley Siouan *huNka 'one who has been blessed, ancestor, leader' (Dhegiha hoNga, etc.).  If this is the case, we would have yet another lexeme in which Ohio Valley Siouan has a /-tk-/ cluster where the rest of Siouan has just /k/.  Other such terms include 'younger brother' (suNtk-).  
 
The name of the Stuckanox chief strongly suggests that she was a woman (miha).
 
Bob

________________________________

From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu on behalf of tom poulsen
Sent: Mon 11/7/2005 5:14 PM
To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
Subject: Re:"saponi Treaty signers"



Hello Mr koontz 

 The following names are from a treaty with the eastern souian people Iam hoping that you maybe able to help  with a translation.

 The names are as follows:

Tawhee Sockha Hoontky of the Saponies;,

 Nehawroose (hehaurooss)  in behalf of Hoonthmiya (hoontky miha) of the Stukanoes;

 Chaweo ; or chawco Hooutky(sp) of the Occaneechis

 Mawseeuntky, Hoontky of the Tottero

 Signed at Williamsburg the 27th day of February 1713.

 Also can you translate sissipaha, there's various spellings of the last word, however any input that you can share would be great!

 Thank you very much Tom Poulsen
ps how do I contact robert Rankin?


 

	
________________________________

	From:  Koontz John E <John.Koontz at colorado.edu>
	Reply-To:  siouan at lists.colorado.edu
	To:  siouan at lists.colorado.edu
	Subject:  Re: Tomahittan?
	Date:  Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:18:02 -0600 (MDT)
	>On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, R. Rankin wrote:
	> > No.  There is no locative prefix with the shape to- in Siouan.  Some
	> > people are obsessed with "big turkeys" and also analyze Mosopelea as
	> > 'big turkey'.  What is it about turkeys?
	>