Kilatika

[Koontz John E]

On Sun, 9 Apr 2006 mmccaffe at indiana.edu wrote:

> Thanks for your thoughts, John. To be honest, though, I think this is a
> dead horse, at least for now.

Not being entirely certain why the horse died, before I give up, you were
aware that t > c^ / __ [e, i] in IO?  And in Winnebago t > c^ in all
contexts?  Here t and c^ refer essentially to the classes dental and
alveopalatal.

Another possible root is *hteeka 'new, recent'.

Granting that 'to rub with the mouth' = 'to tell old news' feels like a
form that might come and go, it is never the less fairly common to find
forms in which 'by mouth' applied to an adjectival or nominal root has the
force 'to speak of as ...; to characterize as ...'.  My stock example is
OP dhaxube 'to speak of as holy' < xube 'holy'.

> Michael
>
> Quoting Koontz John E <John.Koontz at colorado.edu>:
>
> > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Koontz John E wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 mmccaffe at indiana.edu wrote:
> >> > A subtribe of the Algonquian-speaking Miami [is identified as]
> >> > <Kilatika> and <Kiratika> ...
> >> >
> >> > This ethnonym has no apparent etymology in Miami-Illinois. I was
> >> > wondering if by chance it might have an apparent etymology in an Ohio
> >> > valley or Mississippian Siouan language.
> >>
> >> Something like ki + ra + tika, where ki is from the suus, possessive,
> >> reflexive and reciprocal set (neglecting vowel syncopation and aspiration
> >> or preaspiration, etc., on the stop), ra is a perhaps the 'by mouth'
> >> instrumental, and tika is the root.
> >
> > Some possibilities:
> >
> > IO rac^hege 'to tell old news', wac^hege 'polish by rubbing, make new'
> > (-c^hege (root) with ra- 'by mouth', and wa 'by pushing')
> >
> > This might suggest something like 'they chatter about themselves'.
> > However, note that I am just using IO as a convenient source of forcms.  I
> > believe the reflexive or reciprocal "ki (khi-) would interact irregularly
> > with the ra- instrumental, maybe khikra-?  This is kind of a weakly
> > documented area in IO and Winnebago.
> >
> > IO raj^e 'call by name'
> >
> > An additional element *-ka would be required with this.  I'm not sure that
> > works out.
> >
> > IO j^i'ge 'wipe clean, stroke across'
> >
> > (If this is related to the first root, then, maybe it is actually c^ege,
> > not c^hege)
> >
> > I'll look further, but this may be some help.
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