Osage 'eight'

[Carolyn Quintero]

I've been trying to think of an Osage cognate but come up empty-handed.
Osage doesn't have lopa*, lipa*, lupa* at all, nor versions with hl- or xl-,
that I can find.

Carolyn

 

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From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu
[mailto:owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu] On Behalf Of Rankin, Robert L
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 11:04 AM
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Subject: RE: Osage 'eight'

 

I had never heard of /gruba/, but I'll check Quapaw when I get home.  Kaw
doesn't have *loba 'all' unless in that '8' term, and I don't recall ever
seeing it in OS, although Carolyn is the one who would know.

 

Bob

 

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From: owner-siouan at lists.colorado.edu on behalf of Rory M Larson
Sent: Wed 8/23/2006 11:13 AM
To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
Subject: RE: Osage 'eight'

>> Does Kaw reduce what in OP is gdh- to l-, as I believe happens with
Osage?  Could that -loba be equated to OP gdhu'ba, 'all', 'the whole thing'?

> Yes, it does.  But 'all, whole' is /bloga/ in Kaw, so there's been some
messing around with the initial cluster.

In Omaha, this and I believe a few other words seem to do some sound
symbolic alternations between bdhVgV and gdhVbV.  So we have bdhu'ga too for
'all', as well as gdhu'ba.  I don't think we've figured out for sure quite
what the difference is.  I guess the question would depend on how far back
in the Omaha/Dhegihan language lineage a *bro'ka/*gro'pa alternation
existed.

Rory


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