Ofologists take note!

[david costa]

If you need to know the correct English pronunciation of American Indian tribe names, those can almost always be found in the Handbook of North American Indians. (Tho granted, in a sort of quasi-Webster's spelling, not IPA)

The 'Chitimacha' chapter there lists two pronunciations for that name. I don't have it with me so I can't check it, but the two pronunciations for that name I listed in my first post on this were from there.

Dave

-----Original Message-----
>From: Marino <mary.marino at usask.ca>
>Sent: Jun 8, 2006 9:24 PM
>To: siouan at lists.colorado.edu
>Subject: Re: Ofologists take note!
>
>Thanks, Pam.  I should have been more explicit about Haas's 
>pronunciation:  the first <ch> was an affricate, the second <ch> was a 
>fricative, the first syllable had secondary stress and the final syllable 
>primary stress.  The two <a>s were phonetically [a] - approximately.  The 
>first <i> was high front lax, and the second was high front tense (with the 
>norms of those vowels in English).
>
>The "bolshwah" (= Bolshoi) example is extremely funny - I will save it for 
>our Russian phonetician, Veronika Makarova.   But is there not some way to 
>assist our students (at least) to make a seminar presentation on the 
>American languages without feeling self-conscious and mortified whenever 
>they have to pronounce a language name that they haven't heard before?  And 
>while I am on the soapbox, why can't we have IPA fonts on e-mail?
>
>Mary
>
>At 07:55 PM 6/8/2006, you wrote:
>>Now that Mary M. has reported this, I'll say (as a lurker) that hers is 
>>the pronunciation I've heard too, possibly from Mary Haas (I can't 
>>recall), but certainly from my teacher Margaret Langdon, who learned her 
>>names from Mary Haas -- Ch....SHAH (i.e., like Chitty Chitty Bang 
>>Bang...unless we should now start calling that "shitty").
>>
>>Since I'm writing, I'll tell you that I'm currently attending a conference 
>>with many ethnic Chumash people, and still lots of people are saying 
>>SHOEmash. Arg.
>>
>>Pam
>>
>>--
>>Pamela Munro,
>>Professor, Linguistics, UCLA
>>UCLA Box 951543
>>Los Angeles, CA 90095-1543
>>http://www.linguistics.ucla.edu/people/munro/munro.htm
>>
>