a strange query -- off topic.

ThodeCharles ishna00 at hotmail.com
Thu Nov 5 03:32:14 UTC 2009


It's also in the  Osage side page 159, left column 4th word from the bottom: tse'howainge

C.Thode

> Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 11:44:16 -0700
> From: David.Rood at Colorado.EDU
> To: siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> Subject: Re: FW: a strange query -- off topic.
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting!!  As kids (in rural New York state) we used to ask daddy 
> longlegs (a particular kind of big spider) "Which way are the cows going" 
> (without touching the spider, of course) and the spider would stick out 
> one or another of its legs to answer us.
> 
> David S. Rood
> Dept. of Linguistics
> Univ. of Colorado
> 295 UCB
> Boulder, CO 80309-0295
> USA
> rood at colorado.edu
> 
> On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Rory M Larson wrote:
> 
> > Nice, David!
> >
> > My copy is handy, and it's actually under 'walkingstick (insect)' on the
> > English side.  On the Osage side we have:
> >
> > ttse' ho-wa-iN-ge, walking stick (bug);
> >      ttse, buffalo; ho-wa-iN-ge, where are they.
> >      When a child catches a walking stick it squeezes
> >        it between his fingers and asks, "Where are the
> >      buffalo?"  Then the little bug will point straight
> >        ahead, to the right or to the left, and thus the
> >      child gets the answer to his question.
> >
> > Hope this is a help to computer science.
> >
> > Rory
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ROOD DAVID S <David.Rood at Colorado.EDU>
> > Sent by: owner-siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> > 11/04/2009 10:50 AM
> > Please respond to
> > siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> >
> >
> > To
> > siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU
> > cc
> >
> > Subject
> > Re: FW: a strange query -- off topic.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > One of my students, Chuck Thode, tells me that the word for 'walking
> > stick' in the  Osage dictionary means something like 'where did
> > the buffalo go' (so look under the English word 'buffalo').  Apparently
> > there is a description there of how the walking stick told the hunters
> > which way to go.  My copy of the LaFlesche dictionary is not handy at the
> > moment, so someone else should verify this.
> >
> > Bob, you'll have to forward this to Sally.
> >
> > David S. Rood
> > Dept. of Linguistics
> > Univ. of Colorado
> > 295 UCB
> > Boulder, CO 80309-0295
> > USA
> > rood at colorado.edu
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, Rankin, Robert L wrote:
> >
> >> I had this query from Sally Thomason, who works with Salish-speaking
> > people in Montana.    Has anyone heard anything like her beetle account
> > from plains tribes?
> >>
> >> It sounds to me a bit like some of our local farmers who say you can
> > tell how cold it will be in the coming Winter by seeing how thick the coat
> > is on fuzzy caterpillars.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >>
> >> Here's a weird question: I've heard that some Plains Indians
> >> consulted a beetle (or maybe a grasshopper) to decide which
> >> direction to hunt in, by picking it up and seeing how the
> >> antennae waved.  Can you shed any light on this?  Have
> >> you heard it?  Did someone do this, and if so, who?   And if
> >> you haven't heard about it but think it could possibly be a
> >> true account, can you suggest someone else I should ask?
> >>
> >> (I'm cc'ing Rich on this message because he claims,
> >> rather improbably, that the answer would help him with
> >> his research -- research which, as far as I know, is not
> >> concerned with Plains Indians.) [Rich is in computer science. Bob]
> >>
> >>  -- Sally
> >>
> >
> >
 		 	   		  
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