Tutelo-Saponi Adoption String

[Rankin, Robert L]

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Subject: RE: Tutelo-Saponi Adoption String

hena is mother
tokax is grandparent
ki-...-ne is the negative mode
no is iha:o or yaha
ki:to is belong
yesa is people

So could the word for orphan be, iha:o ki:to, no belong?

...yaha hena, no mother?
...ki-kito-ne, negative aspect of belong?
...iha:o yesa, no people?







Scott P. Collins

--- On Wed, 8/3/11, Rankin, Robert L <rankin at ku.edu> wrote:

From: Rankin, Robert L <rankin at ku.edu>
Subject: RE: Tutelo-Saponi Adoption String
To: "siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU" <siouan at lists.Colorado.EDU>
Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 5:23 PM

'Orphan' in all the Siouan languages I have dictionaries for is a compound of 'mother' or 'parent' plus the verb 'be none', in otherwords 'no-parents'.  I'd bet that's what it is in Tutelo also.  If you find the term for 'parent' or just 'mother' in Tutelo and follow it with the verb 'be none', you'd have it.

Bob

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Subject: Tutelo-Saponi Adoption String

The only thing on adoption I find is the name of the adoption string in the Spirit Adoption ceremony which is kanokwiya, is there a word found for orphan in the Tutelo-Saponi language?



Scott P. Collins