Elan

[ROOD DAVID S]

Jill, Elan is indeed the video (and audio) documentation program that was 
written for the DoBeS projects tha Iren and I worked on.  It is constantly 
being updated with new features, and I'm not swift enough to make use of 
many of them.  It is very easy to use once you are familiar with it, but 
as you said, starting a new software program is never easy.  I don't find 
their user manuals very helpful, but the people on the development team in 
Nijmegen are very quick and thorough with the answers to questions (at 
least for me; I assume that holds for people they don't know, too).  Iren 
is good with it, and I know either she or I would be happy to answer 
questions if we can.
 	One very important thing before you get started very far: plan 
carefully what you want your tier structure to look like, because it's 
hard (for me) to change afterwards.  Read the manual pages about this four 
or five times, then go away for a few days and read it again.  There are 
several different ways to "link" tiers into groups so they can be moved 
and added and deleted together.

 	Once you get done, however, the search and print functions are 
wonderful.

 	Best,
]	David



David S. Rood
Dept. of Linguistics
Univ. of Colorado
295 UCB
Boulder, CO 80309-0295
USA
rood at colorado.edu

On Thu, 16 May 2013, Greer, Jill wrote:

> I’ll do my best, Jimm.   You’re right,  I owe it to those elders.  Good news, I have a new laptop, and I downloaded ELAN last night.  Wasn’t it the one Iren and Dave Rood were so excited about last year?  I’m hoping to get some video material started, but learning new software is not really my strong suit.  Any advice from you all on using ELAN?  I also downloaded the Doulos font from SIL, and I think I actually installed it on my Mac, which didn’t want to let me use any non-Mac material….
>
> Jill
>
> From: Siouan Linguistics [mailto:SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu] On Behalf Of Jimm G. GoodTracks
> Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 9:50 AM
> To: SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu
> Subject: Re: Siouan tongue twisters?
>
> Yes, Jill!
> Do go through “all my field notes” and doing that in the near future rather than the indefinite “whenever.”  The kind of findings/ anecdotes/ statements gleaned from our late Ioway, Otoe-Missouria (IOM) Elders who are worthy to be included in the encyclopedic entries of the revised IOM Dictionary.   I am including statements, discussions from present day tribal members as well, such as stated in Email correspondence and on a more grand scale, the recent award winning documentary film “The Lost Nation:  The Ioway” (Parts I, II, III), by the highly recognized film makers, Kelly & Tammy Rundle of Fourth Wall Films, Moline, Ill.
>
> By the way, I am going to make a committed effort to complete all scheduled IOM Dictionary entries in the next three year AT MAX, and then, I will transfer the working files to CD in preparation for sending all to a printer for producing a Hard Copy and distribution.  That would be approximately Dec, 2016.  Forty three years in the compiling and production of an ultimate and excellent IOM Dictionary is sufficient for one life time (my opinion).  We all know that dictionary work is endless, and one needs draw the line.  I’ll be 73yo at that time, my grandson Sage PagranDahe will be 11yo, and on the verge of middle school years.  I will be needing to give attention to this.  I’d prefer he accomplish these years in Antigua, where Private Schools Education have high standards without the gauntlet of state tests as teaching standards, and also there is less negative learning from unfortunate peers who come from homes/ families with low standards & lax supervision of their children.  It was my experience in Lawrence with my children and grandchildren that while the Lawrence middle schools and staff are excellent in all other aspects, the influence from the flow of all manner of children from diversified backgrounds interfered with our family and lead to much chaos, confusion and visits with/ to the juvenile system and courts, where I came well known, but which served in the rapid custody of Hintagwa when his parental family (my son) disintegrated.  I want to spare Hintagwa a possible repeat of these ill scenarios.
>
> However, bottom line may be that I will not locate a preferred Antigua private middle schools with a fully balanced curriculum.  In which case, I have identified the near to White Cloud private Sacred Heart School in Falls City, NE (a full 1~12year school) as an alternative, which offers tailored small classes, and student focused attention with high academic achievement among students within the state educational standards.
>
> So, it is imperative that between you there, Saul in Princeton (at the moment) that we strive and commit to completing the Ioway Otoe (IOM) grammars (professional/ lay grammars) and any undone work that should be included into the hard copy print of the unabridged exhaustive resource Dictionary.  Anecdotes and conversations such as you and Saul shared below are precious, and mostly none-existent in the contemporary acculturated/ assimilated three communities in Kansas & Oklahoma.  I realize your busy, but we ALL are busy.  It is timely to complete long delayed tasks so that the information may be shared with and for the common good of both the Báxoje Jiwére Native communities, the public domain and Academia.
>
> I trust and pray you take heed of this advisory.  Remember what our Elders, their words they shared with us, namely:
> Ix^án swíhsje ke;  Ama ch^é tórigi áre ke.  Hánwegi dagúre^sun hin^unsdunwi ke.  Tanhéda hintúgan Bi mángrida dáhahajena  aréchi xáme  gigrúnje taho.
>
> Gasunhsji  hadádana ke.  Tórigunda
> Jimm
>
> From: Greer, Jill<mailto:Greer-J at MSSU.EDU>
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 11:59 PM
> To: SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu<mailto:SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu>
> Subject: Re: Siouan tongue twisters?
>
>
> Thanks, Saul -  Actually, Grandpa Truman still talked about the number 888 -  he would just laugh about it.  I can't remember any more right now, but if I ever get to go through all my field notes...
>
>
>
> of course, the sound symbolism he enjoyed too -  the word for sneeze was SO dead on target soundwise -  he?shi (sorry, no keyboard symbols here - it's a glottal stop, and the sh is as in English..)
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Jill Greer
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Siouan Linguistics [SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu] on behalf of Saul Schwartz [sschwart at PRINCETON.EDU]
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2013 2:54 PM
> To: SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu<mailto:SIOUAN at listserv.unl.edu>
> Subject: Siouan tongue twisters?
> Hello,
>
> Just wanted to share an amusing anecdote I encountered when I was in the American Philosophical Society Library recently going through Gordon Marsh's correspondence with Franz Boas.
> The following is in a letter from Marsh, dated August 6, 1936, updating Boas on the progress of his fieldwork with Chiwere speakers near Perkins, Oklahoma:
>
> "I can say a few words and simple sentences and can ask for food at the table. The Indians get a great kick out of hearing me talk.
> Sometimes I read them parts of my text, a lot of which they have never heard, and they say it sounds very natural to them and they all understand it.
> They are pleased when I say 8888 for them. It is supposed to be the hardest thing to say and some of them say they can’t say it themselves. It is simply:
>
> kóge glelábliⁿ gléblaⁿ húyaⁿ glelábliⁿnaⁿ gléblaⁿ glelábliⁿ aglíⁿ glelábliⁿ."
>
> While I know that tongue twisters are a recognized form verbal play and source of amusement in many languages, this is the first time I've come across a Siouan one.
> If there are other examples of Siouan tongue twisters, I'd be interested to hear about them.
>
> Be well,
> Saul
>
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