Number 'nine' in Chiwere.

[Rankin, Robert L.]

Every little bit is interesting and helpful.  Thanks Dave.  Bob

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Subject: Re: Number 'nine' in Chiwere.

I know it's not all that important, but in the oldest Miami-Illinois records, "eight" is para·re. By the late 1700s, it's pala·ni in all dialects.

Dave

I need to add a little to my earlier comments on 'seven' and 'eight'.  Chiwere only shows the partial quinary traces in 'eight', not 'seven'.  And they seem to have borrowed it from Omaha.  Below is the comparative dictionary entry for 'eight', and it shows the Omaha influence.

GLOSS[ eight

CH[ gre•rá•brį RR



Proto-Dhegiha[ *hpe•-rá•wrį
OM[ ppeðábðį C
PN[ ppe•ðábðį RR
KS[ ppe•yá•blį
OS[ hpe•ðá•brį
QU[ ppedá•bnį



ProtoSE[ *pa-ra•nį



OF[ pạ́tạnĭ DS-328b
OF[ pA´tAnî Swanton 1909-485



TU[ pālán (N); palāni, palāli, palāniq H
TU[ pǎlan´ Hw
TU[ pelą̈ʹk‘ Sapir
TU[ balai´n Fracht
TU[ bilaæ:kh, bilæ̨:kh Mithun



OTHLGS[ Miami: palani (with variant forms recorded.)



COM[ The CH pattern is almost certainly borrowed from DH, as the basis for
this numeral is ‘three’, which, in CH, has undergone normal development to
{dá•ñį}, not {*ra•brį}. This term is probably not PSI in origin as it
occurs in the proper phonological form (*hpV + ‘three’) only in OVS and DH.
Its presence in Illinois Algonquian (Rankin, 1985) shows that it spread from
an OVS dialect. No actual PSI term for ‘eight’ is currently reconstructible.



Treatment of 'seven' follows in a separate message.

Bob



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