Fw: Nortel Networks commercial

[Professor Des Power]

Auslan, as Ive said before seems to use the same signs for WANT  and DONTWANT
as Bencie describes for BSL. VOICE here though seems to be most commonly the
BHand tapped on the throat..

:-)

Des

Tessa wrote:

> Sorry to disagree, but I am most familiar with 'Voice' being signed in BSL
> with a V-hand, not a G hand, although it is not bent.  This is equivalent
> to the sign for 'accent' relating to speech (there is a different sign for
> accents in sign language).  Have I just confused the issue completely??
>
> Tessa Slaughter
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject:        Re: Fw: Nortel Networks commercial
>
> In BSL, WANT is indeed a downward movement, one handed with
> B hand in BSL, and DONT-WANT moves upwards with B, then
> supinating. The closed fist can mean MY, although  where
> possession is regarded as inalienable, a flat hand is more usual.
>
> However, VOICE is emphatically not a bent-V. I've only ever seen it
> as a G-hand located at the throat, either tapping the throat, or
> moving in small circles (like SPEAK, but located at the throat)
>
> Hope that's of some help.
>
> Bencie
>
> > Yes, Auslan uses the same sign as Richard described for "want".
> > "Dontwant" moves in the opposite direction - up the chest with Bhand.
> > I presume BSL signs are the same or very similar. Bencie?
> >
> > Des
> >
> > Richard Arnold wrote:
> >
> > > Tane is correct in regard to the possessive handshape being an A or
> > > S hand which is usually directional for the person. However it is a
> > > stronger form of the possessive than the flat B hand.
> > >
> > > A/S hand on chest = MINE/MY-OWN;  A/S hands towards the person
> > > talked to = YOURS/YOUR-OWN,  and etc... I think you get the drift...
> > >
> > > As for Don Grushkin' s gloss for DON'T-WANT;   if the girl is indeed
> > > using BSL it maybe an ill-formed WANT sign which is :
> > >
> > > the right Flat B hand brushing down the middle of the chest and
> > > forward in an arc until palm is facing down
> > >
> > >  The movement is close to ASL's DON'T-WANT  which is held further
> > >  out with a
> > > clawed handshape and can be either both hands or one hand.
> > > BSL and NZSL only uses one hand for WANT.
> > >
> > > Thus the gloss could be  ME WANT (my-OWN or MINE) VOICE
> > >
> > > Hope this helps you Don !
> > >
> > > I am sure the Brits would have more to add or correct me if I got
> > > any detail wrong.
> > >
> > > Richard Arnold
> >
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> > Professor Des Power, Director
> > Centre for Deafness Studies and Research, and
> > Language Australia, Centre for Deafness and Communication  Studies
> > Faculty of Education Griffith University, QLD 4111 Australia
> >
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>
> Bencie Woll
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Professor Des Power, Director
Centre for Deafness Studies and Research, and
Language Australia, Centre for Deafness and Communication  Studies
Faculty of Education
Griffith University, QLD 4111
Australia

Tel:  (617) 3875 5654
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