simultaneity in signed languages (was: Perception study -- ASL vs. Gestures)

[Myriam Vermeerbergen]

Dear Allen,

The paper I was referring to appeared in an edited volume on simultaneity in signed languages. I am attaching a description of that book (with a TOC) to this message, so that you can see which papers are included.
I can't think of more recent publications on the topic of simultaneity in signed languages but maybe other colleagues know.

Best wishes,

Myriam



On 25 Apr 2012, at 07:10, Allen Gardner wrote:

> Dear dr. Myriam Vermeerbergen
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> I am intensely interested in simultaneous signs in the structure of sign languages.
> Please send me a copy of your article Vermeerbergen, M. & Demey, E. 2007
> Together, if convenient, with references to studies of simultaneous signs that may have appeared since your book.
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> Cordially,
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> Allen Gardner
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> From: linguists interested in signed languages [mailto:SLLING-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU] On Behalf Of Myriam Vermeerbergen
> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 9:50 PM
> To: SLLING-L at LISTSERV.VALENCIACOLLEGE.EDU
> Subject: Re: Perception study -- ASL vs. Gestures
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> Dear colleagues,
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> I agree with Adam's last point.
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> Some years ago, my colleague Eline Demey and myself published a paper on the comparison of simultaneous constructions in signed languages to instances of speech + co-speech gesture. The paper also includes an introduction to gesture and different types of gesture. 
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> The reference is:
> Vermeerbergen, M. & Demey, E. 2007. Sign + Gesture = Speech + Gesture? Comparing Aspects of Simultaneity in Flemish Sign Language to Instances of Concurrent Speech and Gesture. In: Vermeerbergen, M, Leeson, L., Crasborn, O. (Eds.), Simultaneity in Signed Languages: Form and Function. Amsterdam: John Benjamins, p. 257-282.
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> Feel free to contact me if you would like me to provide you with a copy.
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> Best wishes,
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> Myriam
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> dr. Myriam Vermeerbergen
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> Subfaculty of Language and Communication
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> myriam.vermeerbergen at lessius.eu
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> On 24 Apr 2012, at 01:14, Adam Schembri wrote:
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> Many gesture researchers use the term 'emblem' to refer to gestures that
> are like lexical items in spoken and signed languages: conventionalised
> gestures that have culturally-specified forms and meanings (the 'ok',
> 'thumbs up' etc). As others on the SLLING list have already mentioned,
> some of these are widely recognised in different parts of the world, but
> many identical forms have quite different meanings in different cultures
> (the 'thumbs up' is used in some European countries to also represent the
> number one, for example, whereas in Australia I think most non-signers
> would use the extended index finger). Extending index and middle finger
> with palm towards the body and moving the hand configuration upwards in
> Australia and Britain was traditionally an obscene gesture, although I
> seem to see this less often these days in Australia as the extended middle
> finger gesture ('flipping the bird') has become more widely used.
> 
> I can't emphasise enough how important it is that sign language
> researchers acquaint themselves with the gesture literature. I have
> sometimes seen claims by sign language linguists about how sign languages
> differ from gesture that really don't sit well with what gesture
> researchers have shown.
> 
> Adam
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> Director | National Institute for Deaf Studies and Sign Language
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> On 24/04/12 0:43 , "Mark A. Mandel" <mamandel at LDC.UPENN.EDU> wrote:
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> Adam,
> What do you mean by "emblems"? Things like "come here", "stop", "hi", "be
> quiet"? Group membership or other (semi-)secret signs in the non-SL sense
> of "(secret) sign", such as gang or lodge recognition signals?
> Best,
> Mark Mandel
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> On 12.04.20, at 8:52 PM, Adam Schembri wrote:
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> Don,
> What do you mean by 'gestures'? Co-speech gesture? Emblems? Mime?
> Cheers,
> Adam Schembri
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> On 21/04/12 1:48 , "Grushkin, Donald A" <grushkind at CSUS.EDU> wrote:
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> Has there ever been a study investigating whether nonsigners with no
> exposure to ASL or other signed languages can detect the difference
> between gestures and natural signed languages such as ASL?  I seem to
> think I did come across something like that once, but cannot rememmber
> where or who, if it's not a figment of my imagination.
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> --Don Grushkin
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