[Slling-l] SLLING-L Digest - 30 Oct 2018 to 31 Oct 2018 (#2018-36)

[Mark Mandel]

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On Thu, Nov 1, 2018, 10:15 AM Mark Mandel <mark.a.mandel at gmail.com wrote:

> Date:    Wed, 31 Oct 2018 00:26:58 -0400
>> From:    Susan Walker <swalker29 at GMAIL.COM>
>> Subject: research on turning head while signing?
>>
>> Hi, all.  Many years ago (I'm long retired now), I thought I saw some
>> research
>> in ASL whereby a subject was sitting on a stool, and signing.  The stool
>> was
>> twirled slowly so that the signer's body and head turned away from the
>> observer,
>> but he continued to sign.  He therefore altered his signing locations
>> because his
>> head/body were no longer facing directly toward the observer/listener.
>>
>> For an example:  The sign in ASL for HOME is made on the right cheek by a
>> right-handed signer.  But as the signer turned to the right, he
>> eventually was
>> turned so much that he now made that sign on his left cheek so that the
>> person to whom he was signing would be able to see the sign being made.
>> [I hope I'm describing this properly!]
>>
>
> Not that I know anything about this type of research, but reversal of HOME
> strikes me as odd, because HOME involves no directionality. It would be
> even odder, IMHO, if the right-handed signer continued using their right
> hand but transferred the location to the left cheek; I would consider that
> a different (non-existent AFAIK) sign.
>
> Modifying *directional* signs would be an entirely different matter. It
> would be interesting to see if there's a difference between signs whose
> direction is based in the physical world -- e.g., with visible referents,
> such as YOU-GIVE-ME -- and signs referring to locations previously
> established in the signing space, such as for people who are not present,
> e.g. SHE-GIVE-ME.
>
> Does anyone remember any such research?  It's quite possible I saw it in
>> England in 1989, but I'm pretty sure it was an ASL speaker, so I'm
>> thinking
>> it was probably the USA.
>>
>> Thanks!!  -- Susan Walker, Linguist (Ret.) [Do we ever really "retire"
>> from
>> our love of linguistics?]   :-)
>
>
> I know I don't!
>
> Mark Mandel
> Linguistic Data Consortium, Univ. of Pennsylvania (ret.)
>
>>
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