sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Tue Dec 14 16:57:21 UTC 2004
December 14, 2004
Sandy, Stefan, Everyone...
Isn't this wonderful, Stefan?! Imagine that your MundbildSchrift can be
used in England!!
MundbildSchrift might be useful throughout northern Europe, for
Germanic languages, such as Dutch, Flemish, Danish, Norwegian and yes,
English from the UK too, may have some of the same mouth
movements....There may be some variations needed in each spoken
language, but I think trying Mundbildschrift in Flanders, for example,
might be quite interesting...to see if the young children there have
the same experiences that your students do in Germany...
Another idea....Maybe a SignWriting Pen Pal Club between Germany and
But now, Sandy...there is a huge difference between the words
GebaerdenSchrift and MundbildSchrift...
GebaerdenSchrift means SignWriting in German. It is the literal
translation of the term SignWriting.
MundbildSchrift means Mouth Picture Writing in German....what I used to
call SpeechWriting (writing the movements of the mouth while speaking)
Not all SignWriting (GebeardenSchrift) chooses to write the movements
of the mouth in the way Mundbildschrift does...Val ;-)
On Dec 14, 2004, at 1:55 AM, Sandy Fleming wrote:
> Hi Stefan!
>> You will find such a ovierview on my website - www.gebaerdenschrift.de
> I find Gebaerdenschrift (or Mundbildschrift, what's the difference?)
> useful for writing BSL.
> The mouthing of English words varies between BSL signers, some use very
> little and some use it ALL THE TIME! (in capitals because I find that
> also tend to "mumble" with their hands and sign with one hand while
> on the other and generally letting the English do all the work - it's a
> However the normal use is when using place names without well-known
> signs an
> in using native BSL mouth patterns (for example mouthing "pu"! when
> the sing for "gone" - this can be seen in my BSL Haiku at
> http://bsltext.org/poems/basho.asp modified a bit - I usually only
> write the
> first head circle in handwriting - and in this case the handshape was
> in the
> way so I've written the mouth patterns right to left! Though I admit it
> could be done more clearly in this example :\
> Anyway, I do have a Gebaerdenschrift "alphabet" for use with BSL,
> which of
> course isn't as extensive as what you must have. I've been trying to
> out a SW keyboard for typing SW, and I wanted to be able to include
> Gebaerdenschrift, which I think might be possible to type using the
> of the alphabet on the keyboard.
> I wonder if it would be possible for me to obtain your full
> standard so that I could make sure everything is included?
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