[sw-l] Downloading the IMWA and SSS-1999

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Wed Dec 8 15:22:09 UTC 2004

SignWriting List
December 8, 2004

Sandy and Everyone -
I just downloaded the file and had no trouble unzipping it and opening
it...So I don't think there is anything wrong with Stephen's file. The
problem probably is that the IMWA has a lot of symbols, and maybe
Windows 98 cannot handle 25,000 little files being unzipped all at

Meanwhile, Windows XP and Mac OS X are both modern operating systems,
and those are the operating systems that Stephen and I are using...so
maybe working with the IMWA needs more modern operating systems...

That makes sense, since when Windows 98 was the modern operating
system, we developed SignWriter DOS 4.4 and that was our biggest symbol
set...which was SSS-1995. That was why I suggest SSS-1999, because it
is used in SW-Edit and SignWriter Java, and is a smaller symbolset made
for older computers...

And just because I suggested that you do your own computer program,
Sandy, doesn't mean you should- smile...We just don't have time to
implement your idea of variants right now, thats all...

Anyway, if you want to download the SSS-1995 or the SSS-1999, go to:


Val ;-)


On Dec 8, 2004, at 5:45 AM, Stephen Slevinski wrote:

> Hi Sandy,
> I don't know what might be wrong with the zip file.  It was created on
> linux.  I was able to unzip it on XP.
> If you want to try again, I have recreated the zip file with XP:
> http://signbank.org/signpuddle/downloads/SSS-2004-png-xp.zip
> -Stephen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Sandy Fleming
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 5:50 AM
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: RE: [sw-l] left-handed or right-handed?
> Stephen,
> Thanks for the info, but when I try to unpack SSS-2004-png.zip I get
> this
> error message:
> "Message WZ50
> "An error occurred opening, writing to, closing, or deleting the
> specified
> file.  Possible causes include a misspelled filename, a full disk, a
> read-only or locked disk, or a read-only or locked file.  The
> operation in
> progress will be aborted.  Another dialog box with more specific
> information
> may be displayed.
> "This message may also be displayed because of an invalid archive.  For
> example, if an archive is damaged (possibly due to line noise while
> downloading from a BBS) it may contain invalid pointers or corrupted
> header
> information."
> The offending file is 02-05-014-01-03-04.png
> After this, every file gives the same error message.
> This happens after unzipping 85% of the archive - which takes  long
> time!
> I'm unzipping to my hard disk, which I wouldn't think would give any
> problems with space.
> I'm using Windows 98 - any ideas?
> Sandy
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Stephen
>> Slevinski
>> Sent: 07 December 2004 19:10
>> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> Subject: RE: [sw-l] left-handed or right-handed?
>> Sandy,
>> You have the choice between sss-1999 and sss-2004. I do not know of
>> anyone
>> using sss-2002.
>> As of yet, there does not exist a conversion between sss-1999 and
>> sss-2004.
>> So your choice might be made based on who you want to be
>> compatible with. If
>> you choose sss-1999, you will be able to work with SignWriter Java and
>> SW-Edit. If you choose sss-2004, you will be able to work with
>> SignPuddle,
>> SignText, and SignBank.
>> SignPuddle uses the complete IMWA.  When I downloaded the IMWA, I
>> converted
>> all of the symbols to black & transparent.  You can access this
>> symbolset in
>> gif or png format.
>> http://signbank.org/signpuddle/downloads/SSS-2004-gif.zip  7.3M
>> http://signbank.org/signpuddle/downloads/SSS-2004-png.zip  9.8M
>> Using the entire IMWA can be overwhelming.  I created a cheat sheet
>> for
>> SignMaker.  View the file:
>> http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-US/keyIMWA.js.
>> This file analyzes the IMWA and creates a 4 dimensional array in
>> Javascript.
>> This array made working with the IMWA much easier.  If you look
>> at the file,
>> you will notice that I did not include the rotation in the array.  I
>> did
>> this to reduce the size of the file from over 1MB to just under 14k.
>> -Stephen
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Valerie
>> Sutton
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2004 12:54 PM
>> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> Subject: Re: [sw-l] left-handed or right-handed?
>> SignWriting List
>> December 7, 2004
>> Sandy Fleming wrote:
>>> How do I obtain a symbol set? I downloaded the IMWA some time ago but
>>> it's
>>> huge. Since SW-Edit downloads quite quickly it's obviously not using
>>> the
>>> full IMWA. Stephen's symbol set on Sign Puddle also seems relatively
>>> small.
>> SW-Edit does not use the IMWA, but Stephen's SignPuddle definitely
>> does! And when I complete the updates for a bigger IMWA, I will be
>> giving them to Stephen, and he has kindly promised to incorporate them
>> into SignPuddle too...
>> So downloading a lot of GIFs is a lot, all by themselves, but the
>> software SignPuddle has been designed to make it easy for you to use
>> the whole IMWA symbolset in SignMaker online...
>> Meanwhile, if you want to use smaller symbolsets, they are all online
>> for you to download. Go to:
>> SymbolBank
>> http://www.movementwriting.org/symbolbank/symbolbank.html#SSS952002
>> Download the SSS-1999 ...It is a smaller symbolset. I believe SW-Edit
>> uses 1999...as does SignWriter Java...
>> Val ;-)

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