The SignWriting Song Site

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Mon Jan 26 17:57:26 UTC 2004

SignWriting List
January 26, 2003

Dear SW List, and Tini and Jerry -
I am so glad you are enjoying writing songs...You are contributing much
to the online SignWriting community!

Signing songs gives hearing people a connection with songs they know,
and teaches sign vocabulary. Most songs are signed in English grammar,
which places ASL signs in English word Signed English, or
other variations such as PSE (Pidgin Sign English)...That is because
most songs are translated from the English, and people want to fit it
to the music...And there is nothing wrong with that...if it brings us
all closer together...and it does!...;-)

Once an interperter explained to me, that it is not guaranteed that all
Deaf people will necessarily understand signed songs in Signed
English...If the Deaf person is "very ASL", and does not know English
well, then the songs are pleasant to watch, but not necessarily
meaningful...On the other hand, there are many Deaf people who do
understand it varies a lot...I am sure our Deaf list members
can explain this better than I can...Do you enjoy signing songs in the
Deaf Community?...;-)

It is rare to find a song that is signed in true ASL, with a different
grammar than English...We do have one SignWriting document of a song in
ASL that was signed by Deaf ASL teacher David McKee....and I believe
that is in ASL grammar...(as best as is possible to fit with the
music)...You can download that document on the web:

Star Spangled Banner
US National Anthem US StarSpangBan.pdf

Other than that one, Tini, the field is wide open, and we defintiely
can use more songs written in SignWriting!

If there is anyone else who has songs to contribute, in any signed
language, they are most welcome too...

Val ;-)


On Jan 24, 2004, at 11:51 AM, Tini Pel wrote:

> Dear SW. List and Valerie,
> Thank you Valerie for your encouragement!!!!! I am so glad that Jerry
> found
> the time to make a special web site for songs!!!!!!
> About the particular loge for the Sign Writers Webring, I really don't
> know.
> I leave that up to Jerry, as he knows a lot more about it.
> I am looking forward to do more songs, so  members...... if you think
> the
> way I  present the songs in SW. is O.K. then I am ready to do more.
> Blessings,
> Tini.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Valerie Sutton" <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG>
> Sent: Saturday, January 24, 2004 11:52 AM
> Subject: The SignWriting Song Site
> SignWriting List
> January 24, 2004
> Dear SW List, and Jerry and Tini!
> THANK YOU for the surprise gift! Your new web site for songs, signed in
> ASL, is really great...
> I will place it in our SignWriting Webring on the web...Is there a
> particular logo for the site that you would like me to use?
> I hope everyone will visit and sing along in signs!
> Val ;-)
> ---------------------------
> On Jan 23, 2004, at 8:28 PM, Jerry Spillman wrote:
>> Dear Valerie and The International Sign Writing List,
>> and Tini Pel are pleased to present a new Website, the
>> Sign Writing Song Site, presenting songs interpreted to Sign Writing
>> for your use and reading and singing pleasure. Currently, we open the
>> site with one new page with a song entitled, "This Is The Day",
>> commonly used in many churches and Sunday Schools throughout the
>> world. You may view these pages at:
>> and
>> Please enjoy this great song. If you are a deaf person and you see a
>> correction that is needed, please contact us at:
>> mailto:sss at
>> This file can be downloaded by ftp from the pg1 address above, as
>> "thisis.sgn".
>> Jerry Spillman
>> Webmaster,

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