IMWA: Handshape Construction and Sequencing Rules

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
June 3, 2004

Hello Charles and everyone!
Thank you for this discussion of the details of crossed fingers
below...smile...You are right that I did not do a detailed rule on
which finger crosses first and which one crosses second, since there
are so few of those handshapes. What feels unusual to an ASL
signer...namely the index over the middle...that one is actually done a
lot in Spain and is considered the norm I believe...so anyway...I just
plopped them in under crossed fingers without making a rule...but I
will be happy to make one if you wish...I suggest that I show you all
the actual list of symbols, and when you see those then your comments
will be clearer for all of us...so in a little while I will post a PDF
and announce it, and then I look forward to your feedback...Val ;-)

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On Jun 2, 2004, at 6:35 AM, Charles Butler wrote:

> 1) Sequence makes sense.  I'm not sure I understand,
> visually, the difference between position 06 and 08.
> Can you be clearer?
>
> 2) With two fingers articulating, is the standard "R"
> shape 03, and the "hooked index" 04 with the "hooked
> middle" 05?  They would seem to follow the "outside"
> "inside" rule.  Maybe I'm not quite getting it.
>
> Let's try again.  You can make an "R" handshape
> naturally with the middle finger over the index
> finger.  If you try to cross the fingers the other
> way, the index finger makes a "hook" like the letter x
> (outside).  You can reverse this hook and do it with
> the middle finger (inside).
>
> Is this the sequence?
>
> Charles Butler
>
>
>
> Charles Butler
>
> --- Valerie Sutton <sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG> wrote:
>> SignWriting List
>> June 1st, 2004
>>
>> IMWA Handshape Construction and Sequencing
>> continued...
>>
>> Imagine if you have two handshapes that are very
>> similar to each other.
>> Perhaps one has the fingers spread, and the other
>> has the fingers
>> together. Which handshape comes first in the SSS?
>>
>> What about two handshapes that are exactly the same,
>> except in one, the
>> fingertips touch, and in the other, the thumb
>> touches in the middle of
>> the finger rather than the tips. Which handshape
>> comes first and which
>> comes second? Here are the rules:
>>
>>
>>
>
>> ATTACHMENT part 2 image/gif x-mac-type=47494666;
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> name=IMWA-sssrules3.gif
>