[sw-l] Australian Sign Puddle dictionary online?

Antony Daamen adaamen at OPTUSNET.COM.AU
Mon Nov 29 03:58:09 UTC 2004


HI Val and all other friends on the sign writing site!!

more time
After lots of uuuhhmm-ing and aarrr-ing, I have decided to quit my job.

This means (in theory) that I should hav emore time!

Yes! Auslan SignWriting
So yes Val I am interested in writing my own sign....
On the subject of AUSLAN, there is a webiste that is worth having a look at:


needless to say, I am a member!

If this site would have a link to "my" Auslan Signwriting site, wouldn't
that be marvelous!!

I am a little emberashed to sya, but most emails re: PUDL I deleted... So I
have not got a clue how to use it!

However, I have a little more time, so at last I am be able to do something.

I wasn't very impressed with the DOS-SignWriting program, ehence I didn't
use itmuch.  I only made one sign and it didn't look at all what I imagined
it would like!

Ok, I am surre that all of you are itching to help me... So I am looking
forward to work together!!


-------Original Message-------
From: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Date: 10/15/04 02:29:50
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: [sw-l] Australian Sign Puddle dictionary online?
SignWriting List
October 14, 2004
Want an Australian Sign Language Sign Puddle dictionary online, Antony?
You would be able to create your own signs online and add them to a
dictionary, and then invite your Australian friends to share email in
SignWriting with you...If you are interested, write again...Val ;-)
On Oct 13, 2004, at 5:12 PM, Antony Daamen wrote:
> 14/10/04
> Hallo Kathleen!
> welkom to this site!
> I am Antony and am a 'listener'. Ik bedoel dat ik all de verhaaltjes
> lees, maar niet vaak antwoord...... (I mean that I read all the posts,
> but rarely answer.....)
> I live in Australia, but grew up in Dordrecht, Nederland.  I always
> understood that Nederland was a very oral-oriented country....  So how
> excited I was when you shown me your website!  wowowowowow.
> I never knew any of this!
> Thank you ver very much, you made my day! 
> Also good to see that you use SignWriting in this webiste and with the
> teaching in the class!!
> I myself work for the Qld Deaf Society (I don't know for how much
> longer...) and have been to busy with my work, to be involved with the
> promotion of sign writing.  I have shown this method to anyone htat
> wants to listen, but most educators here are very much set in their
> ways....
> QDS staff themselves are also very very un-interested!  very
> disappointing...
> Nevermind we will plot along.
> OK, if you feel like a chat in Dutch (don't understand French) pls
> tell me! I love to hear more from Belgie Nederland etc.
> -------Original Message-------
> From: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Date: 10/14/04 06:06:42
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] BELGIUM: New SW Literacy Project and new web
> area...
> SignWriting List
> October 13, 2004
> Kathleen Heylen wrote:
> > What can I tell you about Belgium? Better ask me what I can't tell
> you
> > about Belgium because it is such a fascinating country ;o) We ARE the
> > capitol of Europe ;o)
> This is absolutely fascinating, Kathleen! Thank you for sharing with
> us. So Belgium is the capital of Europe? grin...a side note....I come
> from California and I know some Californians feel we are the capital of
> the USA...but the rest of the USA does not agree - ha!! smile...
> But now I realize maybe Belgium is the head of the European Community?
> is that right? In 2004 I believe you have a Dutch president of the EU?
> http://www.eu2004.nl/
> > And we have some beautiful city's to visit. Like; Antwerp, Brussels,
> > Brugge, Gent, Liège, Namur, ...
> oh yes! They are beautiful! I have been to Brussels, Brugge, Gent,
> Leige, and Antwerp...I love Belgium...
> >  It is so that we officialy have 3 languages: Flemish, French and
> > German.
> I had no idea that German was spoken in Belgium!
> > Flemish is the upperside close to Holland where people understand us
> > pretty good because they speak Dutch. Brussels is situated in
> > Flanders, but used to be and still mainly is French (Wallon)
> speaking.
> So there is a French-speaking city in the middle of Flanders, and the
> French dialect is called Wallon ? smile...
> > The lower side of Belgium is near to France and this is where the
> > people live that we call 'Wallon'. This used to be the 'rich' part of
> > Belgium in the early 19th century, but that changed about 70 years
> > ago. Now Flanders is the economic drive of Belgium. Some people in
> > Flanders want to be seperated from the Wallon part. I myself dont see
> > me going on a trip and telling people i'm from the independant 'state
> > of Flanders'. Who ever heared of Belgium, so WHO will know what
> > Flanders is? :s
> Oh. Wow. I see. I think Belgium is fascinating as one country with many
> regions and languages!
> > And then there is a VERY small part of German speaking people in
> > Belgium, but they are such a smal part that they are fogotten about
> > frequently. (shame on us!)
> Do they use German Sign Language, or is it a separate Belgian-German
> Sign Language?
> >
> > So far the general situation of Belgium. Now for our other languages
> > that do exist in Belgium but are not recognized are the signed
> > languages. There is a Flemish Signl anguage in Belgium wich consist
> > also of many dialects as you can see on the website of the University
> > of Ghent. ( http://gebaren.ugent.be/ )
> All those dialects can be written in SignWriting, as you know...
> > There is also a 'French' Sign Language or better said 'Langue des
> > Signes Wallon'. I'm sorry i dont have any information on the
> existence
> > of 'Germang Sign Language' in Belgium. (Deutche Gebarensprache)
> You answered my question above...thank you!
> > I know the signlanguage in Wallonië is recognized to use in the
> > schools, but not as an official language. There are actions at hand
> to
> > promote the recognition of Flemish signlanguage.
> > (www.doofactiefront.be) this site is availible in English as well ;o)
> Great!
> > Now for my school. Being it is situated in Brussels you will think,
> > Jeezus all those languages?? No, it is true at my school there are
> > Flemish speaking and signing people aswell as Wallon speaking and
> > signing people. This used to be all mixed up, but a few years ago the
> > two groups where seperated. So now the children learn 2 languages:
> > Flemish SignLanguage (FSL) and Dutch (Flemish) written and/or spoken.
> > This is how we see Bi-lingual education. The children are brought up
> > in there mothertongue Flemish signlanguage and learn to read and
> write
> > (speak) Dutch. I myself teach FSL (VGT - Vlaamse Gebarentaal) and
> > d/Deafculture together with Sara (my sweet friend and Deaf
> > coöperator).
> I see. Very interesting. So you have the school divided into two
> sections...one section for the Flemish and the other the French
> (Wallon)? So do the Deaf kids inter-mix on the playground? Because we
> could also write their Wallon Sign Language too, and then the kids
> could learn each other's signed languages! Just a thought...but for the
> future...smile
> > We teach the children the grammar and sytaxis of VGT and do this by
> > using SignWriting. What is our population? Well all the children run
> > trough our classroom, no matter there hearingloss. Some student have
> > more ours VGT a week then others.
> >  
> > I would love to get some information on other people using
> SignWriting
> > in Belgium, the people i know dont really use it or are not working
> as
> > educators. My french is not as good as I would want it to be. So i
> get
> > more information in English and Flemish then French. It's more
> > difficult for me to read a book in French then in English. But i will
> > do my best to work with my Belgian partners ;o)
> >  
> > More news WILL follow ;o)
> > Greetings Kathleen
> >  ps: hope i don't make to many mistakes (my spelling isn't that
> great)
> > pps: i have a disk that has a DOS program for SignWriting (Kristof De
> > Weerdt gave it to me ;o)
> Please send my best wishes to Kristof! Your English is excellent - no
> problems at all! I will send you some contacts in Belgium -
> it may take a few days before the web area is ready and I will write
> when it is!
> Val ;-)
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