[sw-l] SignPuddle

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
October 8, 2004

THANK YOU, Stephen, for this offer. It is like offering candy to a 
baby...of course we would like lots of features! But for the sake of 
being thoughtful, I want to take a few hours with my thoughts about all 
this..to think through what would be a good plan in general. I will 
post my thoughts to the List in the next day or so...

Meanwhile, thank you for your kindness...One thing I know...the more we 
can use your programs in conjunction with other programs around the 
world, the better we will be...so if coordination between SignBank, 
SW-Edit and SignWebMessage could be possible, that would be a 
blessing...

Meanwhile I am working on the new Software Forum, and will be 
announcing it on Monday, I hope...It will highlight 21 programs that 
use SignWriting...Val ;-)

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On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:18 PM, Stephen Slevinski wrote:

> Hi Stuart,
>  
> I've thought of writing such a library, but I am not sure of the 
> interest.
>  
> There is the broader topic of what is the best way to use SignWriting 
> on websites.  There are several approaches we could use.
>  
> HTML Hardcode
>  Send yourself an SW email using the online images checkbox.  Copy and 
> paste the HTML code.
>  
> PHP Function
> Requires PHP installed on server.  This would be the translate 
> function you describe.  Pass the langauge and the gloss.  Should also 
> pass the style (horizontal or verticle), or use two functions.
>  
> Other CGI
> Same as above, but in ASP or Perl or ...
>  
> Javascript
> Create a Javascript function that would generate the SignWriting.  
> This would not require any special installation on the server.  This 
> would require Javascript on the client.
>  
> Gloss vs SWML-S
> Should these functions accept gloss or use SWML-S?
> For dictionary entries that were created with the new SignMaker, I can 
> output SWML-S.  For the other sign entries I can not.  The ASL 
> dictionary needs to be almost completely rewritten, over 3000 signs.
>  
> Gloss can be used immediately, but SWML-S is the superior solution.  
> SWML-S will properly display verticle writing with the head in the 
> center.  (I can even include lanes.)
>  
> SWML-S can be built from the dictionary, but does not depend on the 
> dictionary.  In a few months, I hope to have a working version of 
> Movement Writer available as a Java Applet that will output SWML-S. 
>   
> Anyway, there are many options, but what is needed and what will be 
> used?  I'm willing to write the code, not because it is possible, but 
> because it will be used.
>  
> Seriously, who needs what?  Speak up and you may get it.
> -Stephen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu 
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Stuart 
> Thiessen
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:07 AM
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle
>
> Stephen,
>
> I wonder if you could write a PHP function similar to your translate 
> function that can embed the SignBank dictionary locations (with the 
> option of adding local dictionaries) and then people can simply 
> include that function on their page, and then reference it with a 
> <?php translate("sgn-US", "ME GO STORE."); ?> or whatever you call it. 
> Then the function can search the appropriate dictionaries both remote 
> and local and place the appropriate PNG's in that slot.
>
> For those who do not have access to PHP, maybe a CGI approach could be 
> available for them?
>
> What do you think?
>
> Stuart
>
> Valerie Sutton wrote:
>  SignWriting List
>  October 8, 2004
>
>  Sandy Fleming wrote:
>
>  This would be a very easy way to build webpages with SignWriting 
> without
>  having to extract and store the images on my own sever, but would 
> this sort
>  of behaviour be acceptable to you, considering the load it would put 
> on your
>  server? It might be quite a heavy load if people start using the 
> Puddle
>  dictionaries to compose whole texts on their websites!
>
>  Hello Sandy, Stephen and Everyone!
>  Congrats on entering the sign for Wales (smile). I extracted the .png 
> image from the htm file and here it is attached to this 
> message...Looks good! When you create a sign in SignMaker now, it 
> creates two kinds of files. One is a graphic image in .png format, and 
> the other is the one that holds the language information, called a 
> .bld file (Stephen's development)...So when I opened your htm file, I 
> found the .png file for Wales there, and I right-clicked on my mouse 
> and downloaded it. Then I attached the .png to this message.
>
>  Did you know that SignPuddle is not on Stephen's server? We moved 
> Sign Puddle to the SignBank site during the summer which means it is 
> on my server....not my server in my home...but on DeafVision, where I 
> pay an annual fee to host our SignBank site. And as far as I know our 
> memory is ok right now, so go right ahead, Sandy, and be as creative 
> as you wish! That was why we moved SignPuddle to SignBank, so we would 
> have a long-lasting, ongoing server for SignPuddle... Val ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
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