[sw-l] SignPuddle
Valerie Sutton
sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Fri Oct 8 23:38:54 UTC 2004
SignWriting List
October 8, 2004
THANK YOU, Stephen, for this offer. It is like offering candy to a
baby...of course we would like lots of features! But for the sake of
being thoughtful, I want to take a few hours with my thoughts about all
this..to think through what would be a good plan in general. I will
post my thoughts to the List in the next day or so...
Meanwhile, thank you for your kindness...One thing I know...the more we
can use your programs in conjunction with other programs around the
world, the better we will be...so if coordination between SignBank,
SW-Edit and SignWebMessage could be possible, that would be a
blessing...
Meanwhile I am working on the new Software Forum, and will be
announcing it on Monday, I hope...It will highlight 21 programs that
use SignWriting...Val ;-)
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On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:18 PM, Stephen Slevinski wrote:
> Hi Stuart,
>
> I've thought of writing such a library, but I am not sure of the
> interest.
>
> There is the broader topic of what is the best way to use SignWriting
> on websites. There are several approaches we could use.
>
> HTML Hardcode
> Send yourself an SW email using the online images checkbox. Copy and
> paste the HTML code.
>
> PHP Function
> Requires PHP installed on server. This would be the translate
> function you describe. Pass the langauge and the gloss. Should also
> pass the style (horizontal or verticle), or use two functions.
>
> Other CGI
> Same as above, but in ASP or Perl or ...
>
> Javascript
> Create a Javascript function that would generate the SignWriting.
> This would not require any special installation on the server. This
> would require Javascript on the client.
>
> Gloss vs SWML-S
> Should these functions accept gloss or use SWML-S?
> For dictionary entries that were created with the new SignMaker, I can
> output SWML-S. For the other sign entries I can not. The ASL
> dictionary needs to be almost completely rewritten, over 3000 signs.
>
> Gloss can be used immediately, but SWML-S is the superior solution.
> SWML-S will properly display verticle writing with the head in the
> center. (I can even include lanes.)
>
> SWML-S can be built from the dictionary, but does not depend on the
> dictionary. In a few months, I hope to have a working version of
> Movement Writer available as a Java Applet that will output SWML-S.
>
> Anyway, there are many options, but what is needed and what will be
> used? I'm willing to write the code, not because it is possible, but
> because it will be used.
>
> Seriously, who needs what? Speak up and you may get it.
> -Stephen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Stuart
> Thiessen
> Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 10:07 AM
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] SignPuddle
>
> Stephen,
>
> I wonder if you could write a PHP function similar to your translate
> function that can embed the SignBank dictionary locations (with the
> option of adding local dictionaries) and then people can simply
> include that function on their page, and then reference it with a
> <?php translate("sgn-US", "ME GO STORE."); ?> or whatever you call it.
> Then the function can search the appropriate dictionaries both remote
> and local and place the appropriate PNG's in that slot.
>
> For those who do not have access to PHP, maybe a CGI approach could be
> available for them?
>
> What do you think?
>
> Stuart
>
> Valerie Sutton wrote:
> SignWriting List
> October 8, 2004
>
> Sandy Fleming wrote:
>
> This would be a very easy way to build webpages with SignWriting
> without
> having to extract and store the images on my own sever, but would
> this sort
> of behaviour be acceptable to you, considering the load it would put
> on your
> server? It might be quite a heavy load if people start using the
> Puddle
> dictionaries to compose whole texts on their websites!
>
> Hello Sandy, Stephen and Everyone!
> Congrats on entering the sign for Wales (smile). I extracted the .png
> image from the htm file and here it is attached to this
> message...Looks good! When you create a sign in SignMaker now, it
> creates two kinds of files. One is a graphic image in .png format, and
> the other is the one that holds the language information, called a
> .bld file (Stephen's development)...So when I opened your htm file, I
> found the .png file for Wales there, and I right-clicked on my mouse
> and downloaded it. Then I attached the .png to this message.
>
> Did you know that SignPuddle is not on Stephen's server? We moved
> Sign Puddle to the SignBank site during the summer which means it is
> on my server....not my server in my home...but on DeafVision, where I
> pay an annual fee to host our SignBank site. And as far as I know our
> memory is ok right now, so go right ahead, Sandy, and be as creative
> as you wish! That was why we moved SignPuddle to SignBank, so we would
> have a long-lasting, ongoing server for SignPuddle... Val ;-)
>
>
>
>
>
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