[sw-l] SignPuddle

[Stephen Slevinski]

Hi Adam,

Try the following version of SignMaker.  It's not pretty, but I can make it
available as a zip download (8MB) to use offline. It runs faster locally and
does not require any special software other than a browser with Javascript.
http://www.oculog.net/signmaker/sm.html

You can load a build string, and you can create a list of build strings.

I can make a few macros that will convert the list of build strings into
SWML-S or into preformatted HTML pages using the image.php script.

So let me know what you think.

-Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Adam
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2004 9:27 PM
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: RE: [sw-l] SignPuddle


PERFECT! Thanks. And I will do the ALT.
A question. You said that there was a way that the build information can
be loaded and created. Can you explain exactly how this is done? I can
figure it out.

Adam

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] On Behalf Of Stephen
Slevinski
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:08 PM
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: RE: [sw-l] SignPuddle

Hi Adam,

If this works for you, great.  One comment, use ALT with images.  <img
src="build_URL" alt="gloss">  Using ALT is expected for image files.  It
will also help with long texts that might otherwise become confusing.

Below is a lot of detailed information.  Might be too much, but if
you're
interested...

The build format contains all of the information needed to build a sign.
Every sign that is entered into the dictionary with SignMaker
(javascript)
has a BLD file that contains this information.  These signs can be
loaded
into SignMaker using the Dictionary Editors page.

Example:
http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/dict/sl/8-oclock.png
http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/dict/sl/8-oclock.bld

If you have the build information for a sign, you can load that
information
into signmaker.  Here is how you could edit the sign you posted below.

http://www.signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/create.php?build=01-05-011-01-
01-0
1,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01-01,27,36,08-04-006-01-01-0
1,4,
64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,

So if you choose to do your SignWriting this way, know that you can
still
edit your signs.

I will be updating the image.php script to include head centering for
verticle writing.  I'll let you know when that is available.

Using the build information is similar to using SWML, but without all
the
extra syntax.  Here's what I mean...

Your build info is:
01-05-011-01-01-01,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01-01,27,36,
08-0
4-006-01-01-01,4,64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,

Compare this to the SWML-S version...
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1" ?>
  <swml version="s-1.0" language="asl" tranlation="english">
    <sign gloss="good?">
      <symbol x="8" y="24">01-05-011-01-01-01</symbol>
      <symbol x="5" y="0">03-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
      <symbol x="27" y="36">02-05-001-01-01-01</symbol>
      <symbol x="4" y="64">08-04-006-01-01-01</symbol>
      <symbol x="24" y="16">08-01-001-01-01-01</symbol>
    </sign>
  </swml>

You can verify this by using the SWML-S output page:
http://www.oculog.net/swml/dump.php

If you like to use SignMaker, I can try and make an offline version that
accepts and output the build format for signs.  This will require
downloading the IMWA.

I know this is not a perfect solution, or one that everyone will want,
but
if it works for you, that's great.

-Stephen

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
[mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Adam
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:54 PM
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: RE: [sw-l] SignPuddle


Stephen,

I have tried to do that, but I just can't seem to get the signs to
format the way that I would like. There is something that I did find
that just might work for me. I think that you have it called 'build.'
This would make it so that I can use the symbols that I want and put
them were I want them. If it is alright, this seems that it would be the
best thing to use. (However, at the moment, the build takes a while for
me to generate because I am so unfamiliar with how the numbers fit. I
have been using the code in the address off the SignMaker just before
you would add it too the dictionary.) Is it alright to do it this way? I
have put in the code for the sign for "Good?" to show what I am talking
about. Is this ok to do?

<img
src='http://signbank.org/signpuddle/SGN-US/image.php?build=01-05-011-01-
01-01,8,24,03-01-001-01-01-01,5,0,02-05-001-01-01-01,27,36,08-04-006-01-
01-01,4,64,08-01-001-01-01-01,24,16,'>

Adam