[sw-l] Please test new SignMaker with Drag and Drop

Thu Sep 23 02:33:42 UTC 2004

SignWriting List
September 22, 2004

Hello Stephen -
Thanks for all these new features...I have not tried them yet, but I
will...and I will write next with my feedback...

Regarding terminology and buttons...The word flip and flop got so
confusing that we called it the Mirror Key in SignWriter, and I hope we
can use the same term for SignMaker? Or are you flopping down and up,
and not a Mirror?

Tapping on the Mirror Key in SignWriter, gives the mirror image of the
same symbol. And in that sense, some facial expression symbols do have
a mirror image...For example, if you type the right eye in
SignWriter...you can then tap on the Mirror Key, which gives you the
left eye...

The Fill Key is important. If you have a handshape selected, and you
tap on the Fill Key, it changes the Fills...which means palm facings
for the hands. Being able to tap through all the palm facings is
wonderful. In the Movement Symbol category, the Fill Key changes the
fill in the arrowhead...the dark and light arrowheads mean left and
right movement...

And in the faces, the Fill Key is used for the right and left halves of
the face... And in Category 5 and 6, it is used for "related
symbols"...

So we need a Fill Key, a Rotation Key, a Mirror Key, a Variation
Key...and if we are typing, a Cursor Key to place the cursor in the
next position where we want to place the next symbol...

Val ;-)

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Stephen Slevinski wrote:
> You can now delete, flip, and rotate symbols in the sign box.
>
> When using flip and rotate, it is possible your symbol may seem to
> disappear.  If that happens, your symbol is not gone, it is just
> trying to
> access a symbol that does not exist.  An examples would be to flip a
> face.
> The face disappears.  Press flip again, and the face reappears.  Faces
> do
> not have flips.  I am not sure if I can fix this without increasing the
> download by over a megabyte.
>
> I may also include a button to cycle through variations.  And another
> button
> to cycle through flips.  Thoughts or comments appreciated.
>
> Thanks for testing,
> -Stephen
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Bill Reese
> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:49 AM
> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Subject: Re: [sw-l] Please test new SignMaker with Drag and Drop
>
>
> Stephen,
>
> That is fun!  I had a blast dragging things around when testing.  A few
> observations/comments:
>
> 1. Sometimes I dragged a symbol to the box and then I decided I didn't
> want it.  I had to clear everything and start over rather than just
> drag
> it to a "trash".
>
> 2. The composition box and the vertical separation line on the page
> overlapped.  I'm using a 19" monitor and Netscape 7.1.
>
> 3. I found myself wishing I could use keys on my keyboard to rotate
> symbols.
>
> 4. Lining up two faces to make a composite face needed a bit of skill.
> I wanted to use the arrow keys on the keyboard to fine-tune the
> alignment.
>
> 5. Some of the symbols didn't have a transparent background.  I noticed
> this with the bars in the lower right of the main menu.
>
> 6. Sometimes the UP menu choice didn't step me all the way back to the
> main menu.
>
> 7.  I can drag symbols in a menu to other parts of the menu and they
> would stay there instead of snapping back.  This is more noticeable on
> sub-menus with lots of blank space.  This isn't a problem as the menus
> always reset when going back to them.
>
> 8.  When scrolled down to the bottom of a long menu and picking a
> symbol, the sub-menu that follows would be off the screen and I would
> need to scroll up.  A return to the top of the page would be useful
> here.
>
> Bill
>
>
> Stephen Slevinski wrote:
>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> You can test the new SignMaker at:
>> http://www.oculog.net/puddle/create.php
>>
>> -Stephen
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Stephen
>> Slevinski
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 12:08 AM
>> To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> Subject: [sw-l] Please test new SignMaker with Drag and Drop
>>
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I have a new version of SignMaker ready for Sign Puddle.  This
>> version uses
>> drag and drop.  I have tested it on Internet Explorer and Mozilla
>> Firefow.
>> It works fine.  Not sure if it will work for mac though :(  I'm still
>> investigating and I don't have access to a mac...
>>
>> If all goes well, I will add it to SignBank in a day or two.
>>
>> When you open the screen, you will see a floating Sign Box, a control
> table,
>> and a symbol palette.
>>
>> You have two options with the symbol palette.  You can drag symbols
>> over to
>> the sign box.  Or you can click on a symbol to view more symbols
> underneath.
>> The symbol palette has three levels.  The top level has the
>> categories and
>> groups.  The next level has symbols and variations.  The final level
>> has
>> fills and rotations.
>>
>> You can drag any symbol from any level over to the sign box.
>>
>> With the control table you can clear the sign box, return the symbol
> palette
>> to the top level, or add the sign to the dictionary.
>>
>> After the symbols have been added to the sign box, you can use drag
>> and
> drop
>> to finish the sign.
>>
>> I still need to add SignWriter control keys like flip and rotate for
> symbols
>> in the sign box.  I also need to add the ability to delete individual
>> symbols from the sign box.
>>
>> Give it a try and let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Stephen
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