ASL novel; seeking fluent-ASL SignWriter

Wed Jul 20 02:35:46 UTC 2005

SignWriting List
July 19, 2005

Hello Kim!
Your enthusiasm is really wonderful! As you know, this new service:

SignWriting Transcription Services
http://www.SignWriting.org/catalog/member/mem002.html

...is not related to ASL. It is for ANY sign language video. It  
therefore requires no language expertise, only Movement Writing  
expertise. I personally do not know enough ASL or any sign language,  
to be able to offer the service you suggest below. And since at this  
time, we have no income, it would not be possible for me to hire a  
Deaf native signer to read and teach you ASL.

Video transcription is another service, in other words...

I hope you enjoy your writing in ASL...most people do not capture the  
grammar correctly...so that is great that you are developing that  
skill...

Val ;-)

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On Jul 19, 2005, at 6:36 PM, Kimberley A. Shaw wrote:

Hello Val:
the transcription service looks like a great resource! I hope to be
getting together with a Gally emerita soon, and if my pencil isn't fast
enough to capture her storytelling, I may take advantage of it!
Here is another suggestion, however. As an ASL student, I find writing
directly in ASL to be very good practice "immersing", and it helps me
retain the stuff I've learned in class. One of the things in the
anthology, actually, is a book review that I've written directly in SW
with *no* English along the way! However, I *did* read it to my Deaf
ASL-fluent teacher first to make sure everything was as it should be.  
And
so, here is the suggestion:
how about offering a proofreading service for those of us whose ASL is
not-yet fluent, but are working on it? Say, I could write a story or  
essay
or poem, send it to a member of the DAC, have them write up and down the
margins with their red pen (or whatever) and then send it to me ... I
would pay for something like this!
Best,
Kim from Boston

sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 12:18 PM  
-0500
wrote:

> SignWriting List
> July 19, 2005
>
> Hello Kim and Everyone!
> To write a novel in any signed language, the most accurate way would
> be to hire a native signer in that language, in this case ASL. The
> storyteller would sign the story from the beginning to the end. This
> will make it a truly ASL experience. Then the video can be
> transcribed into SignWriting...
>
> We do have some written ASL documents that were not taken from
> video...written directly in the movements of ASL with no video
> backup...but those were by native signers. Most people are not that
> skilled in SignWriting yet. The video gives us the good grammar of
> ASL so we get a good document that way.
>
> I have now started a Video-Transcription Service for ANY signed
> language. Your group provides the video, preferably in Quicktime or
> other computer formats, and I, or someone working with me, can do the
> transcription into SignWriting for you...
>
> SignWriting Transcription Services
> http://www.SignWriting.org/catalog/member/mem002.html
>
> Val ;-)
>
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>
>
> On Jul 19, 2005, at 3:02 AM, Kimberley A. Shaw wrote:
>
> Hi Val:
> OK, have written to them now!
> Now, I have one more query to *all* you ASL signwriters out there:
> Since my anthology has the articles from signwriting.org about the
> NAD and
> the DNP protest at Gallaudet, I think there should be an article
> about the
> new town of Laurent, as well, maybe title it "Islay comes to real
> life" or
> something like!
> So, who would like to write it??
> Payment will be in copies of the book only, which is up to 9  
> stories now
> (including a poem by Michele Bornert, just added).
> Best,
> Kim
>
>
> sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu on Tuesday, July 19, 2005 at 12:21 AM
> -0500
> wrote:
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>
>> SignWriting List
>> July 18, 2005
>>
>> Yes, the first complete novel written in Spanish Sign Language in
>> SignWriting, by Steve and Dianne Parkhurst, is certainly historic!! A
>> beautiful book! And I believe it is the first complete novel written
>> in ANY sign language, in history.
>>
>> I have around 8 copies and I could sell one to you, but first, please
>> write to Steve and Dianne Parkhurst to ask them if they wish to sell
>> it to you? I do not know how much they charge, or if you should pay
>> them directly? They are teaching linguistics at SIL this summer in
>> North Dakota. Their course is the one that includes writing Mexican
>> Sign Language in the Mexican SignPuddle (with Stuart Thiessen's
>> teaching and assistance)...
>>
>> So please write to:
>>
>> Steve and Dianne Parkhurst
>> steve-dianne_parkhurst at sil.org
>>
>> It is a mystery novel, with illustrations by Steve Parkhurst.
>>
>> Val ;-)
>>
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>>
>> On Jul 18, 2005, at 9:02 PM, Kimberley A. Shaw wrote:
>>
>> Hello all:
>> never mind the ASL anthology I'm working on; *this* is very, very
>> cool!
>> So, even if it is a couple years later now, and I don't know Spanish
>> sign
>> ... how can a person lay hands on a copy of this book?
>> And if I can get a fluent-in-ASL collaborator, how about putting
>> Wilkie
>> Collins' "Hide and Seek" (which involves a deaf heroine, as of the
>> 1850s!)
>> into ASL??
>> Allabest,
>> Kim from Boston
>>
>>
>> From:  Valerie Sutton
>> Date:  Tue Mar 26, 2002  4:26 pm
>> Subject:  Re: SPAIN: Conference at Val's House ;-)
>>
>>
>> SignWriting List
>> March 26, 2002
>>
>> Dear SW List Members:
>> Here is a summary of the Parkhurst's work, which I have excerpted
>> from a newsletter they gave me, written in March, 2002:
>>
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>>
>> SUMMARY (mostly in the Parkhurst's own words):
>> We have lived in Spain now for more than seven years. During the
>> first two years, we surveyed the sign language (SL) situation. We
>> found that there are two main sign languages in Spain that are unique
>> from any other SL in the world. Our main focus for the past five
>> years has been SignWriting. Our goal was first to see if the Deaf
>> Community was interested in reading and writing their langauge. Once
>> they expressed the interest, our next goal was to make the writing
>> system available to anyone in the Spanish Deaf Community who wanted
>> it. That meant developing a literacy program and sufficient
>> literature for them to read.
>>
>> We developed a literacy program with a 228-page manual, teacher
>> training materials, video and a few other projects. More than 300
>> people have learned SignWriting in Spain, and now we have turned over
>> most of the responsibility of distribution and publicity to a Deaf
>> organization. We hope that even more people will learn SignWriting on
>> their own.
>>
>> We also have a small base of literature consisting of 24 issues of a
>> semi-monthly magazine (written in SignWriting in Spanish Sign
>> Language), distributed in Spain to the magazine subscribers.
>>
>> We have written, illustrated and published the first mystery novel
>> ever written in SignWriting. It is a 142-page paperback-bound novel
>> written completely in Spanish Sign Language (with no spoken language
>> in the entire book). It is the retelling (in Spanish Sign Language)
>> of the mystery novel "The Moonstone" by Wilkie Collins, written in
>> 1868. Steve did his own illustrations.
>>
>> Altogether, we have produced more than 475 pages of reading materials
>> in SignWriting (not counting the lessons books). As far as we know,
>> that is the most published literature in written form in any sign
>> language in the world!
>>
>>
>> Linguistics
>> We have published two issues of a linguistic journal and our survey
>> report in Spanish. Steve has also published several other linguistic
>> articles here in Spain and in the US, as well as giving presentations
>> at a number of linguistic conferences. One of them was in Alicante
>> (on the southern coast of Spain). Steve presented a study about
>> syllable structure in Spanish Sign Language that he has been working
>> on (did you know that sign languages have syllables?)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From June to August, 2002, we will be a part of a team, teaching at
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> the University of North Dakota, in the Summer Institute of
>> Linguistics (SIL)'s first sign language linguistics course set. Since
>> these are new courses, we will be spending a good portion of April
>> and May preparing the materials for parts of the course. SignWriting
>> will be included as a part of one of the courses, on orthographies.
>> There are urgent translation needs among the Deaf communities around
>> the world. We hope that this SIL course will help train a few new
>> workers!
>>
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>>
>> Val again:
>> Many thanks, Steve and Dianne, for the great summary!
>>
>> SW List members - You should see their mystery novel in SignWriting!
>> ....It is amazing and I will try to give you a picture of it soon -
>>
>> --
>> Val ;-)
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