[sw-l] Sandy's sign for "house"

[Sandy Fleming]

Hi Val, Shane,

I've renamed my sign to "big-house" in the dictionary.

However, it does seem to me that the palm orientation changes - probably
more so when native signers do it than when learners do it. It's a more
relaxed way of executing the sign.

I'll ask a native BSLer what the sign for "house" is without telling him
why I'm asking, then observe. Then we can argue about it  :)

Sandy

Shane Gilchrist Ó hEorpa wrote:

>Val,
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>I re-checked the lovely neat picture u have done - in one way, Sandy got the
>sign right - if she's referring to a very big house or a maison or even a
>palace.
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>It makes me smile when people sign Buckingham Palace as "'B' BIG-HOUSE"
>whereas in NISL, we sign "QUEEN HOUSE" - interesting, I never recall anyone
>bere in Belfast talking about "Buckingham Palace" - oh yes, I remember Agnes
>Carberry telling me about it - as her husband was invited to meet the Queen
>of England at one of her garden parties - she signed it as "QUEEN HOUSE
>LONDON GARDEN BACK-OF-HOUSE PRIVATE-PRIVATE" - long I know.
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>Sandy's sign in BSL: Palace, maison, big house, UK Parliament
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu [mailto:owner-sw-
>>l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu] On Behalf Of Valerie Sutton
>>Sent: 16 March 2005 01:11
>>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>>Subject: Re: [sw-l] New Signs in BSL Dictionary
>>
>>SignWriting List
>>March 15, 2005
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>>Sandy Fleming wrote:
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>>>Meanwhile, if anyone feels like checking my new signs for spelling
>>>mistakes and discussing them on the list, that would be great!
>>>
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>>Great, Sandy and Shane -
>>This is the perfect opportunity to discuss the other sign for HOUSE
>>that Shane sent to me, in a video...The videos were very dark for some
>>reason...so the photos are not so good in this diagram, but you can see
>>the plam facing. Sandy's writing has a different palm facing than
>>Shane's at the end of the sign...perhaps that is just a stylistic
>>difference, or a dialectical difference? Should we have both versions
>>in the dictionary? Look at the way Val would write it ...Here in the US
>>there are many people who change the palm facing of the ASL sign too,
>>at the end of the sign, when it goes down, but we do not bother to
>>write the finishing position, since people recognize the sign without
>>it...we just write the first position and people read the sign just
>>fine...
>>
>>So which version is best for Deaf children in a BSL coloring book?....
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