[sw-l] Adding Classifiers to SignPuddle Dictionaries

[nemery at U.WASHINGTON.EDU]

wow, Kathleen, you have a lot of classifier constructions in here, it's great!  Cats sitting on walls,
boys riding in the basket of a bicycle... Did you enter them as you were writing a story?  Or just
think them up to show as examples?

Nancy


On Thu, 17 Mar 2005, Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:

>
> Hello list,
>
> I read in a book about sign linguistics that the term 'classifier'
> indicates the shape of the hands. There are numerous terms for the
> constructions discribing a situation. Polycomponential verb,
> polysynthetic sign, ...
>
> I use the prefix 'Cl-' in the Flemish signpuddle.
>
> http://signbank.org/signpuddle/sgn-BE-nl/search.php?sign=cl-bergen&search=cl&typ
> e=any
>
> Greetings Kathleen
>
> >From: "Nancy Emery" <nemery at u.washington.edu>
> >Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> >Subject: Re: [sw-l] Adding Classifiers to SignPuddle Dictionaries
> >Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:13:26 -0800
> >
> >that will be very cool in future when that is possible, Stephen!  you
> are
> >right, I am interested in being able to modify for temporary uses -
> because
> >a classifier construction is like packing a whole sentence into the
> space of
> >a sign, and there are too many possible classifier-sentences to put them
> all
> >in the dictionary.  When that feature is possible I may use Signmaker
> for
> >transcribing videos, since I can't print from SW Java now anyhow, I can
> just
> >as well make a screen capture of an e-mail as of a SW Java page.
> >
> >for now it seems like putting the classifier handshapes in, using the
> CL:3
> >style notation, makes sense just to let people know what they are, even
> if
> >they can't use them directly from the dictionary.
> >
> >Nancy
> >
> >on 3/15/05 3:41 PM, Stephen Slevinski at slevinski at signwriting.org
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Val,
> > >
> > > I think she was refering to sending mail with SignPuddle.  When you
> send
> > > mail, you use gloss.  You have no chance to modify the signs.
> > >
> > > This will change.  In the future, you will be able to build emails
> > > interactively.  First you could search for signs (by gloss or
> symbol),
> > > modify the sign (using SignMaker), and then add it to the
> email.  When this
> > > is possible, having general classifiers in a dictionary would be more
> > > useful.
> > >
> > > -Stephen
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> > > [mailto:owner-sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu]On Behalf Of Valerie
> Sutton
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 6:23 PM
> > > To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> > > Subject: Re: [sw-l] Adding Classifiers to SignPuddle Dictionaries
> > >
> > >
> > > SignWriting List
> > > March 15, 2005
> > >
> > > On Mar 15, 2005, at 2:26 PM, Nancy Emery wrote:
> > >> But for actually using them - since the location, movement and
> > >> orientation
> > >> have to be added anyway, since they depend on what is being said
> with
> > >> the
> > >> classifier, I'm not sure that it would be much more helpful to take
> the
> > >> handshape from the dictionary than just to compose the sign from
> > >> scratch....
> > >> It's just that in certain texts some classifier constructions are
> used
> > >> over
> > >> and over, and it is nice to be able to cut, paste and modify rather
> > >> than
> > >> rebuild the whole thing.  But I don't know that dictionary signs can
> be
> > >> modified by the user anyway...
> > >
> > > Signs can be modified in the public SignPuddles, if you are a
> > > Dictionary Editor with a password. I can invite you to be an Editor,
> if
> > > you wish, and you could try to enter a few classifiers and then point
> > > us to them on the web and we can all look at them...how about that? A
> > > good way to discuss the issue...
> > >
> > > Val ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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