[sw-l] SignPuddle 2.0 beta

[Valerie Sutton]

SignWriting List
May 27, 2005

Thank you, Steve, for this explanation and now I see that there will
be different dictionaries for different signed languages, but each
dictionary will be able to choose how many spoken languages they want
to include in their listings...that is a great feature, especially if
Unicode is working, which I know it will be someday...

I am excited that you have included SignSpellings in SignPuddle 2.0.
That is excellent. SignBank, at the moment, has been the only program
that could record SignSpellings, but when SignPuddle 2.0 comes out we
will have two programs that can sort dictionaries by SSS...that is
great!

I miss SignText in SignPuddle 1.0...I don't know what you are
planning, but if  there is any way to place SignText on SignBank.org/
signpuddle, I know I for one, will use it...not linking to another
site, but staying within SignPUddle 1.0 and being able to create
sentences...That will make SignPuddle 1.0 a very useful tool that
will be used for years to come...

Thank you for these gifts...

This weekend I am working on improving the ASL SignPuddle, which has
so many signs that are graphics instead of SWML and that needs to be
changed...It will be great when all the signs in SignPuddle 1.0 are
all SWML!

Val ;-)

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On May 27, 2005, at 8:19 PM, Steve Slevinski wrote:

> Hi Val,
>
> The langauge list is ridiculously long.  Eventually, this list will
> be dictionary specific.  So each dictionary can decide what
> langauges they want to use.
>
> When you looked at the signs you added, you should have noticed 2
> columns of special commands.
>
> The first column is for anyone: Customize, Search, and Copy.
>
> The second column is for editors and sign owners.  Since you
> created the sign, you own the sign and can use the editing
> commands: Edit, Spelling, Labels, and Delete  These editing
> commands work directly on the existing sign.
>
> Edit - load the sign into SignMaker.
> Spelling - open the sign spelling window so you can modify the
> spelling.
> Labels - open the sign labels window for changing the labels text.
>
> Since I'm an editor for the dictionary, I was able to modify your
> English label for "twelve".
>
> Val's Label:
> 12. twelve.
>
> New Label:
> 12
> twelve
>  hidden text here
>
> If you search for 12 and display the results in words, you will
> notice that "12" and "twelve" each appear as unique items.  The
> original English label, "12. twelve." would have appeared as one item.
>
> Notice that " hidden text here" doesn't appear in the list because
> it starts with a space.  This is a technique for hiding text, but
> still making it searchable.  I will probably change this so that it
> is easier to hide text from the words list.
>
> -Steve
>
>
> Valerie Sutton wrote:
>> SignWriting List
>> May 27, 2005
>>
>> Steve Slevinski wrote:
>>> For now, when labeling a sign, only spoken langauges are
>>> available.  Unicode is supported, but I haven't tested it yet.
>>> The Labels field can be used for terms, definitions or anything
>>> else.  Each phrase should have it's own line in the labels
>>> field.  This allows you to have more than one label per langauge
>>> per sign.
>>
>> Is the SignPuddle Community dictionary a multi-lingual dictionary
>> that takes one sign, and then gives the definitions for that one
>> sign, in multiple spoken languages?
>>
>> That is very exciting...
>>
>> So how do you differentiate the individual gloss-word that you use
>> to find a sign, and the long phrase that might be associated with
>> that sign?
>>
>> When I used the pull-down menu, to choose the spoken language I
>> wanted to use, the pull-down menu included spoken languages that
>> are no longer spoken...like Middle English (used in 1500s) and
>> Ancient Greek (smile)...which no one speaks today!
>>
>> So can you eliminate the spoken languages that are not used any
>> longer? The pull-down menu is too long and I could not hold the
>> mouse down that long because my hand started to hurt...smile...
>>
>> But generally this is a very interesting idea, because most signs
>> are used in different countries, but oftentimes have different
>> meanings...like the sign for COOK in ASL can mean TRANSLATE A
>> LANGUAGE.... in Danish Sign Language etc...
>>
>>
>>> SignPuddle 1.0 will stay up and active on SignBank.org for as
>>> long as it is used.
>>
>> Wonderful! So we can continue to work as we are right now, plus we
>> will have these new features on SignPuddle.org....that is great!
>>
>> many thanks for all this!
>>
>> Val ;-)
>

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