Kathleens visit to Dublin

Tue Nov 8 16:15:22 UTC 2005

Val,

agreed with you - its important that everyone know the truth - and that
people should be encouraged to share information and all that.

Shane

On 08/11/05, Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
>
> SignWriting ListNovember 8, 2005
>
> My dear friends, and Shane!
>
> Everyone in the world who chooses to learn to use SignWriting, are welcome
> in my world, with open arms...including those who choose to use it in
> research, and are not necessarily salesmen or able to be public about their
> usage...Everyone is very different and I accept those differences with open
> arms...
>
> Patrick Mathews is a researcher, and is not a person who necessarily wants
> to teach. But I am very grateful to Patrick for being so kind to me, and for
> being so hard-working. He asked me to edit three of his books that use
> SignWriting, and I am happy to see that he wants to write SignWriting
> well...He learns slowly and carefully. That fits the university kind of
> world he lives in...the world of research. In the world of research they
> oftentimes do not share their dissertation until it is completed...that is
> just the way it is...and I accept that with respect. Lots of researchers do
> that in the US too...in all countries of the world, researchers do not
> discuss their dissertations..that is normal!
>
> I am well aware that a decade ago, in Ireland, there were people who
> fought over SignWriting. Believe me, I was amazed and saddened, sitting half
> way around the world, knowing that such arguments had happened in Dublin. I
> had not planned on that for SignWriting, which is my gift to the world...to
> anyone rich or poor...to all groups equally...all are equal in my mind...The
> only thing I ask, is that people want to learn to write signs properly, and
> that SignWriting remains a positive, uplifting and warm experience for
> everyone...
>
> So Shane, please listen to me as your friend, and as the person who
> started all this...I am asking that you do not feel any anger towards anyone
> using SignWriting...be happy they are using it, and leave it at that...and
> go on with your own work...YOU learn SignWriting...that is what matters...
>
> SignWriting is a big family and I want it to remain a wonderful loving
> family...
>
> I am now going to call Ingvild to congratulate her on her new chapters of
> her book, that are really beautiful and then I have guests coming, but then
> Theirry and everyone, at the end of the day, and Anny in French-Switzerland,
> I will try to get to your private requests...your work is wonderful!
>
> And Shane - I have not forgotten teaching you the numbers and I look
> forward to getting back to that too! I hope you can go ahead and try to
> write the numbers from 20 to 50? Thanks for all you are doing in Northern
> Ireland... I bet you will have your own books someday too... and it will
> spread to the schools...but you need literature for the teachers, so that is
> why it is important that you learn SignWriting well first...
>
> Val ;-)
>
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>
> On Nov 8, 2005, at 1:21 AM, Shane Gilchrist O hEorpa wrote:
>
> Kathleen,
>
> too bad we didnt meet up - i had the date put down in my diary - but I was
> busy chasing after my 30 teachers (FOUR SICK TEACHERS ON MY HANDS AND
> SEVERAL ANNOYING SCHOOLS!!!)
>
> i ll reply to Val's piece of history - theres alot of controversy down
> South.
>
> Patrick Matthews - I am disappointed that he didnt choose to teach
> SignWriting to the students at the CDS - it would make a big impact - but I
> will meet up with Pat McDowell the new CDS Director and talk to him about
> that - I ll want to talk to him about having the CDS students learning NISL
> (we will expect our own interpreters up North to learn ISL & NISL - its
> natural that terps down South would do the same)
>
> Even so, he isnt very good at marketing the SignWriting in Ireland.
>
> I hope with your visit to him, Kathleen, it will make him think - but hes
> one of the people who think its okay for them to keep things to themselves -
> thats from the general deaf population (thats the general attitude among the
> deaf academics in the UK and Ireland) - for instance I am very impressed by
> the deaf academics in Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany etc - they DO get
> involved in deaf politics, trying to change deaf education - for instance
> Thierry on the LSFB Commission, his hard works with the deaf schools in
> South Belgium - and for instance Kristof and his gang in North Belgium so on
> - if it wasnt for universities etc, SignWriting wont be introduced to
> Kasterlinden - and theres a good chance Kasterlinden might not even go
> bilingual if it wasn't for the universities.
>
> With attitudes like that in Dublin, I dont think we ll see SignWriting
> being introduced to the 3 deaf schools at Cabra :-(
>
> Shane
>
> On 07/11/05, Kasterlinden Bilinguaal <katjesaar at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Hello Val and list,
> >   I just got back from one week in Dublin. It was grand. I visited the
> > CDS (Centre for Deaf studies) and met Patrick Matthew - he told me he
> > visited you once in San Diego :)
> > They were all such sweet and friendly people. I discussed SignWriting
> > with him because he's working on his Phd about writing systems for Sign
> > Language. - I was so happy ;) -
> > We exchanged email and he wants to ask questions about how we use it in
> > our daily education with Deaf children.
> >  I also made a report - that's almost finished - I'll post it on the
> > list ;) It was soooo interessting!
> >    Evolution in SignSpelling?
> >  Yes, it's possible... look here ;)
> >  [image: Kathleen] [image: Kathleen_2] [image: Kathleen_3]
> >  This is my name 'Kathleen', you can see how I made the first sign in
> > September 2004, the middle one I made june 2005 and the last one I made
> > november 2005.
> >  You see the difference?
> >   smile ;)
> >  Greetings Kathleen
> > Have a nice day!
> >
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