LESSONS in SignSpelling

Valerie Sutton sutton at SIGNWRITING.ORG
Sun Oct 16 22:15:16 UTC 2005

SignWriting List
October 16, 2005

Hello Kathleen, Stefan, Ingvild, and Everyone!
I want to thank all of you for being so open to changing and  
improving your dictionaries online. It means a lot to see that these  
Rules are helping, and I feel encouraged...I particularly want to  
thank Stefan, for encouraging me to start teaching again with the  
eLessons...and Honza too...thanks for that...sometimes I need that  
encouragement...so I hope you all will keep informing me of what you  

You are right, that new writers would never think of such rules...it  
takes skilled writers, who already have some experience, to realize  
the importance of them, so I think you are moving into a more  
advanced understanding of the structure of writing movement...that is  
good, because as SignWriting spreads in Belgium, Kathleen, newcomers  
could have an easier experience, if they know these rules in  
advance...as one of the pioneers, you have to go back to fix the  
spellings...ugh! smile ;-)

Actually, so do we in the US...our ASL SignPuddle needs a lot of  
cleaning too!!

How to make changes in SignPuddle? Here is how I personally do it:

1. I go to Dictionary Editors, and login as an Editor.
2. Then, I scroll up to the top of the Dictionary Editor section to  
search for the sign I want to clean...let us pretend: I search for  
the sign HELLO.
3. I find three signs for HELLO...they are HELLO, HELLO_2, HELLO_3.
4. I push the LOAD button for one of them, and sometimes I have to  
refresh my screen to see the loaded sign...
5. I now have the sign in SignMaker, ready to be changed. I make the  
change. I save the sign to the dictionary still using the SAME name  
6. SignPuddle automatically puts a number on the end of it...it  
becomes HELLO_4.
7. I then click on the Dictionary Editors icon again and once again  
search for HELLO.
8. Let us imagine I want to replace the first HELLO with the new one  
I just created...
9. First, I delete the first HELLO.
10. Then I scroll down and find the new HELLO that is named HELLO_4.
11. I Rename that new one, to become HELLO without any number. Push  
the Rename button.
12. Then press the Refresh button on your browser at least TWO times.
13. Your new sign is now the first one on the list, and is no longer  
number 4...

  Everytime you want to replace a sign, you load it, change it, and  
re-save it with the same name and then go back and delete the  
original and rename the new one...

Hope that helps!

Val ;-)


> Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:
> I'll print out these rules and will tape them next to the computers  
> at my school so people who create new signs will not forget the  
> rules ;) Also at home ;)
>> Now the rules are much clearer , when I started creating signs I  
>> didn't think about all this. So I'll have to go through all the  
>> signs we made in the Flemish signpuddle to correct the signs, and  
>> I'll have to make adjustments to the Goldilocks documents.
>> Have you any tips for me how to work fast and efficient with  
>> signpuddle? Because when I make a mistake usually I go to the  
>> puddle and log in as editor... then I load the sign and make the  
>> change. I have to save it under a different name or the same name  
>> with '_2' added. And then go through the 'delete' and 'change the  
>> name again' process.
>> Greetings Kathleen
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