LESSONS in SignSpelling and SignPuddle
Steve Slevinski
slevin at SIGNPUDDLE.NET
Mon Oct 24 19:49:43 UTC 2005
*Internet Explorer*
View >> Refresh (F5)
*FireFox*
View >> Reload (Ctrl-R)
Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
> what do you mean by "refresh button " ?!?!
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> Anny
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> *De : *"Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
> *Répondre à : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> *Date : *Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:25:02 -0700
> *À : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> *Objet : *Re: [sw-l] LESSONS in SignSpelling and SignPuddle
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> SignWriting List
> October 24, 2005
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> Hello Anny and also Steve -
> Maybe Steve can have other suggestions...
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> But for me, after I change the sign's name in SignPuddle, and I
> press the Rename Button, I then have to press the Refresh Button
> several times in my web browser, sometimes two or three times,
> before the web browser can empty the cache, so that you see what
> is really there...
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> As you know, web browsers hold the memory of what you saw before,
> in the cache. So even when a name is changed, that cache will make
> you see what was there before, even though internally the change
> was made...so when you press the refresh button on your browser,
> and it takes several times pressing refresh...then the cache is
> emptied and you see what you really have...
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> When I make a small change in SignPuddle, I press the refresh
> button three times and I see the sign change before my eyes to the
> new one...
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> Which browser are you using? Val ;-)
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> Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
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> when. as an editor, I do exactly what you describe above...
> everything works fine till I get to N° 11... when I do remame
> My new sign (the one I just entered) and use the name of the
> sign I just deleted... then on the screen I see the old
> version of the sign (the one I just deleted...) and there's no
> way I can get back to the one I changed and renamed as "Hello4"
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> whant am I doing wrong ?
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> Anny
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> *De : *"Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
> *Répondre à : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> *Date : *Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:15:16 -0700
> *À : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> *Objet : *Re: [sw-l] LESSONS in SignSpelling
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> SignWriting List
> October 16, 2005
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> Hello Kathleen, Stefan, Ingvild, and Everyone!
> I want to thank all of you for being so open to changing
> and improving your dictionaries online. It means a lot to
> see that these Rules are helping, and I feel
> encouraged...I particularly want to thank Stefan, for
> encouraging me to start teaching again with the
> eLessons...and Honza too...thanks for that...sometimes I
> need that encouragement...so I hope you all will keep
> informing me of what you need...
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> You are right, that new writers would never think of such
> rules...it takes skilled writers, who already have some
> experience, to realize the importance of them, so I think
> you are moving into a more advanced understanding of the
> structure of writing movement...that is good, because as
> SignWriting spreads in Belgium, Kathleen, newcomers could
> have an easier experience, if they know these rules in
> advance...as one of the pioneers, you have to go back to
> fix the spellings...ugh! smile ;-)
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> Actually, so do we in the US...our ASL SignPuddle needs a
> lot of cleaning too!!
>
> How to make changes in SignPuddle? Here is how I
> personally do it:
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> 1. I go to Dictionary Editors, and login as an Editor.
> 2. Then, I scroll up to the top of the Dictionary Editor
> section to search for the sign I want to clean...let us
> pretend: I search for the sign HELLO.
> 3. I find three signs for HELLO...they are HELLO, HELLO_2,
> HELLO_3.
> 4. I push the LOAD button for one of them, and sometimes I
> have to refresh my screen to see the loaded sign...
> 5. I now have the sign in SignMaker, ready to be changed.
> I make the change. I save the sign to the dictionary still
> using the SAME name HELLO.
> 6. SignPuddle automatically puts a number on the end of
> it...it becomes HELLO_4.
> 7. I then click on the Dictionary Editors icon again and
> once again search for HELLO.
> 8. Let us imagine I want to replace the first HELLO with
> the new one I just created...
> 9. First, I delete the first HELLO.
> 10. Then I scroll down and find the new HELLO that is
> named HELLO_4.
> 11. I Rename that new one, to become HELLO without any
> number. Push the Rename button.
> 12. Then press the Refresh button on your browser at least
> TWO times.
> 13. Your new sign is now the first one on the list, and is
> no longer number 4...
>
> Everytime you want to replace a sign, you load it, change
> it, and re-save it with the same name and then go back and
> delete the original and rename the new one...
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> Val ;-)
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> Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:
> I'll print out these rules and will tape them next to
> the computers at my school so people who create new
> signs will not forget the rules ;) Also at home ;)
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> Now the rules are much clearer , when I started
> creating signs I didn't think about all this. So
> I'll have to go through all the signs we made in
> the Flemish signpuddle to correct the signs, and
> I'll have to make adjustments to the
> Goldilocks documents.
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> Have you any tips for me how to work fast and
> efficient with signpuddle? Because when I make a
> mistake usually I go to the puddle and log in as
> editor... then I load the sign and make the
> change. I have to save it under a different name
> or the same name with '_2' added. And then go
> through the 'delete' and 'change the name again'
> process.
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> Greetings Kathleen
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