LESSONS in SignSpelling and SignPuddle

Tue Oct 25 12:37:26 UTC 2005

Internet Explorrer donesn't work that well with SignPuddle...
personnally I'm using Fire Fox...
I'm working on a MacIntosch G4 Mac Os 9.2

can you help me with this refresh button?!?!

thanks

Anny

> De : "Steve Slevinski" <slevin at signpuddle.net>
> Répondre à : sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Date : Mon, 24 Oct 2005 15:49:43 -0400
> À : sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
> Objet : Re: [sw-l] LESSONS in SignSpelling and SignPuddle
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> *Internet Explorer*
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> View >> Refresh (F5)
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> *FireFox*
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> View >> Reload (Ctrl-R)
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> Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
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>> what do you mean by "refresh button " ?!?!
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>> Anny
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>> *De : *"Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
>> *Répondre à : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> *Date : *Mon, 24 Oct 2005 12:25:02 -0700
>> *À : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> *Objet : *Re: [sw-l] LESSONS in SignSpelling and SignPuddle
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>> SignWriting List
>> October 24, 2005
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>> Hello Anny and also Steve -
>> Maybe Steve can have other suggestions...
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>> But for me, after I change the sign's name in SignPuddle, and I
>> press the Rename Button, I then have to press the Refresh Button
>> several times in my web browser, sometimes two or three times,
>> before the web browser can empty the cache, so that you see what
>> is really there...
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>> As you know, web browsers hold the memory of what you saw before,
>> in the cache. So even when a name is changed, that cache will make
>> you see what was there before, even though internally the change
>> was made...so when you press the refresh button on your browser,
>> and it takes several times pressing refresh...then the cache is
>> emptied and you see what you really have...
>> 
>> When I make a small change in SignPuddle, I press the refresh
>> button three times and I see the sign change before my eyes to the
>> new one...
>> 
>> Which browser are you using?  Val ;-)
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>> Anne-Claude Prélaz Girod wrote:
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>> when. as an editor, I do exactly what you describe above...
>> everything works fine till I get to N° 11... when I do remame
>> My new sign (the one I just entered) and use the name of the
>> sign I just deleted... then on the screen I see the old
>> version of the sign (the one I just deleted...) and there's no
>> way I can get back to the one I changed and renamed as "Hello4"
>> 
>> whant am I doing wrong ?
>> 
>> Anny
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>> *De : *"Valerie Sutton" <sutton at signwriting.org>
>> *Répondre à : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> *Date : *Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:15:16 -0700
>> *À : *sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>> *Objet : *Re: [sw-l] LESSONS in SignSpelling
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>> SignWriting List
>> October 16, 2005
>> 
>> Hello Kathleen, Stefan, Ingvild, and Everyone!
>> I want to thank all of you for being so open to changing
>> and improving your dictionaries online. It means a lot to
>> see that these Rules are helping, and I feel
>> encouraged...I particularly want to thank Stefan, for
>> encouraging me to start teaching again with the
>> eLessons...and Honza too...thanks for that...sometimes I
>> need that encouragement...so I hope you all will keep
>> informing me of what you need...
>> 
>> You are right, that new writers would never think of such
>> rules...it takes skilled writers, who already have some
>> experience, to realize the importance of them, so I think
>> you are moving into a more advanced understanding of the
>> structure of writing movement...that is good, because as
>> SignWriting spreads in Belgium, Kathleen, newcomers could
>> have an easier experience, if they know these rules in
>> advance...as one of the pioneers, you have to go back to
>> fix the spellings...ugh! smile ;-)
>> 
>> Actually, so do we in the US...our ASL SignPuddle needs a
>> lot of cleaning too!!
>> 
>> How to make changes in SignPuddle? Here is how I
>> personally do it:
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>> 1. I go to Dictionary Editors, and login as an Editor.
>> 2. Then, I scroll up to the top of the Dictionary Editor
>> section to search for the sign I want to clean...let us
>> pretend: I search for the sign HELLO.
>> 3. I find three signs for HELLO...they are HELLO, HELLO_2,
>> HELLO_3.
>> 4. I push the LOAD button for one of them, and sometimes I
>> have to refresh my screen to see the loaded sign...
>> 5. I now have the sign in SignMaker, ready to be changed.
>> I make the change. I save the sign to the dictionary still
>> using the SAME name HELLO.
>> 6. SignPuddle automatically puts a number on the end of
>> it...it becomes HELLO_4.
>> 7. I then click on the Dictionary Editors icon again and
>> once again search for HELLO.
>> 8. Let us imagine I want to replace the first HELLO with
>> the new one I just created...
>> 9. First, I delete the first HELLO.
>> 10. Then I scroll down and find the new HELLO that is
>> named HELLO_4.
>> 11. I Rename that new one, to become HELLO without any
>> number. Push the Rename button.
>> 12. Then press the Refresh button on your browser at least
>> TWO times.
>> 13. Your new sign is now the first one on the list, and is
>> no longer number 4...
>> 
>> Everytime you want to replace a sign, you load it, change
>> it, and re-save it with the same name and then go back and
>> delete the original and rename the new one...
>> 
>> Hope that helps!
>> 
>> Val ;-)
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>> Kasterlinden Bilinguaal wrote:
>> I'll print out these rules and will tape them next to
>> the computers at my school so people who create new
>> signs will not forget the rules ;) Also at home ;)
>> 
>> Now the rules are much clearer , when I started
>> creating signs I didn't think about all this. So
>> I'll have to go through all the signs we made in
>> the Flemish signpuddle to correct the signs, and
>> I'll have to make adjustments to the
>> Goldilocks documents.
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>> Have you any tips for me how to work fast and
>> efficient with signpuddle? Because when I make a
>> mistake usually I go to the puddle and log in as
>> editor... then I load the sign and make the
>> change. I have to save it under a different name
>> or the same name with '_2' added. And then go
>> through the 'delete' and 'change the name again'
>> process.
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>> Greetings Kathleen
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