FRANCE Sign for Etudiant

[Juliette Dalle]

Hello Val

I'm back !...

(I don't find your last mail, replied at mine, I lost it... :-(..).

I see that there is a little confusion about the sign' s 
interpretation. Indeed, I recharch one symbol for a sign "Deaf Student 
association of  31" (it is a name of association), not of sign 
"student".... For the sign student, it more different about position. 
That's why I should better to delete the sign which you put on the 
french dictionnary.. (sorry... :-S).

In France, we don't like to write the 2 different configurations of 
hand (depature and end of movement), it is a bit long to read and to 
write. I have done an exprience with my students, I have written 2 
different signs of the same signification. The children chose the 
simple.. Because of clear and practical to read and to write a SW text 
(remember, I don't use only SW vocabulary but too some SW texts in LSF 
lesson). But, it is always good (not mistake), to be used as SW 
vocabulary.

Take care

Juliette Dalle

Le lundi, 12 sep 2005, à 02:13 Europe/Paris, Valerie Sutton a écrit :

> SignWriting List
> September 11, 2005
>
> Juliette Dalle wrote:
>> See the photo of the sign "student" (name of a deaf student 
>> association) and the sign in SW draft as example. The left hand is 
>> behind of the right hand : which symbol to use ?
>
> Hello Juliette and Everyone!
> Thank you for the photo. Photos help so much...
>
> There are a variety of ways to see "behind" in SignWriting. We do not 
> have a Behind Symbol. In the Expressive View, we can look overhead and 
> look down on our hands and then see which one is in front, plus there 
> are other ways too.
>
> I added two of my own writings of this sign in the French SignPuddle. 
> You can always delete them from your SignPuddle later, once we have 
> finished our discussion...Look at the attached diagram. I think the 
> overhead view of the left hand and the darker arm line makes it clear 
> that it is more behind than the other hand...If you are looking down 
> on the left hand, it is clear that the right hand is more forward...
>
> <Etudiant.gif>
>