New 10 Handshape in SignPuddle now!
Ingvild Roald
iroald at HOTMAIL.COM
Wed Sep 28 12:37:28 UTC 2005
Hi Charles and all,
we have to remember that we have two viewpoints to choose from (this has
nothing to do receptive or expressive), the *forward* view and the *bird's
perspective*. When we write the *forward* view, the hand symbol is whole, it
is not broken. When we write the *bird's pesrpective*, the hand symbol has a
broken line. Shade in *bird's perspective* means back of hand down,
half-shade means back of hand to the side (or forward or back, depending).
So you cannot go by shade alone, you have to see shade *and*
whole-or-broken. Thus some of the symbols in this drawing are wrong
Ingvild
>From: "Charles Butler" <chazzer3332000 at YAHOO.COM>
>Reply-To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
>Subject: Re: [sw-l] New 10 Handshape in SignPuddle now!
>Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:53:23 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Try this. ALL THUMBS
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>Valerie Sutton <sutton at signwriting.org> wrote:
>SignWriting List
>September 27, 2005
>
>On Sep 27, 2005, at 8:59 PM, Charles Butler wrote:
> > 05-03, the shadow is wrong as the palm of the hand is by that
> > shadow facing down, not up. It's the same shadow as 02-03, and it
> > should be opposite.
>
>Hello Charles -
>You have a misunderstanding of how the overhead view is read, because
>this diagram is absolutely correct! Of course they must have the same
>shading, otherwise it would be incorrect...they cannot be
>opposite...so there is nothing wrong about it! I will try to create a
>diagram for you tomorrow to help you understand it...05 is seen from
>overhead with the baby finger to the floor, and it has the baby
>finger to the floor as it rotates around...and you are looking on top
>and seeing the thumb projecting straight at you...words are no
>good...pictures will help tomorrow...smile...Val ;-)
>
>PS. 05 is exactly like the S hand...think of the S hand parallel to
>the floor... the dark is on top because you are looking from
>above...it is like the side of the hand, except seen from
>above...smile...
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