AW: [sw-l] Editing SignWriting Literature, email overload and schedules ;-)

Valerie Sutton signwriting at MAC.COM
Sat Jul 8 19:34:00 UTC 2006

SignWriting List
July 8, 2006

Thank you, Erika, Stefan and Ingvild!
This is good to never know because I do get some people  
complaining privately about too much email and I certainly respect  
that too...but hopefully people can learn how to filter their email  
so only some messages that they really are interested in, will be  
there for

Yes...the issues of facial expressions are fascinating because the  
native Deaf who were writing our first long documents by hand back in  
the 1980's chose different facial expressions than a lot of linguists  
would have assumed...and then in the 1990's Darline and Kevin and  
Dave all did the same and so I feel there is something to this...

On the other hand I also can see, because Stefan and Ingvild educated  
me to this fact, that northern Europe might be we  
cannot make a blanket statement that all countries or all cultures,  
or even all documents within one culture, will choose the same facial  
expressions...I believe it may be quite varied depending on the  
purpose of the document...documents can be targeted to different

Val ;-)

On Jul 8, 2006, at 12:24 PM, eghoffma at UMICH.EDU wrote:

> I just wanted to also note that I find these discussions  
> fascinating. It's so interesting to watch different ideas about  
> literacy and script emerge. For example, I've been following the  
> discussion about facial expression and audience with great interest  
> so I'd hate to lose the chance to observe the editing of Jack and  
> Jill.
> Best,
> Erika
> Quoting Stefan Wöhrmann <stefanwoehrmann at GEBAERDENSCHRIFT.DE>:
>> Hi Valerie and listmembers,
>> I am sorry to tell you that I feel surprised to read this message.
>>> From my point of view it would be a pity to miss these fruitful  
>>> discussions
>> which will lead to some kind of spelling agreement. And it is very  
>> much this
>> process that goes along with creating a new published document.  
>> While you
>> are discussing I myself try to solve the problem my way or try to  
>> figure out
>> what might probably look different in the end ... So this reading  
>> of these
>> editing - messages are a great opportunity to learn!!
>> I guess that other sw-list members follow these discussions with  
>> great
>> attention and interest as well.
>> So all I can tell - I am still very much interested to develop a  
>> higher
>> level in spelling, and SignText Editing and creating documents  
>> with other
>> programs compared to SW44 --
>> The number of emails should not be a critical aspect since anybody  
>> could
>> press the delete button so quickly if he is not interested in this  
>> message -
>> What do you think?  Can you change your mind?
>> Stefan ;-))
>> -----Urspr√ľngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: owner-sw-l at
>> [mailto:owner-sw-l at] Im Auftrag von  
>> Valerie Sutton
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. Juli 2006 18:51
>> An: sw-l at
>> Betreff: [sw-l] Editing SignWriting Literature, email overload and  
>> schedules
>> ;-)
>> SignWriting List
>> July 7, 2006
>> Dear SW List Members!
>> I can see how much email we all have. It has increased lately.
>> Sometimes the List works well. Sometimes email is lost. Lots of
>> information is flowing, but just like computers, our brains can
>> become clogged too!
>> I am going to try to manage better that all our work with
>> SignWriting is more peaceful...
>> Cherie and I can edit her work off the List now, privately. That way,
>> we can finish the stories quietly and post them as finished stories
>> on the web for all of you to read and enjoy...
>> If others want me to edit your work, I am happy to do it too,
>> privately off the List...I am creating a calendar with my
>> you can see when I can schedule working with you in the
>> future...
>> I will always be here, and you are welcome to post anytime...and I
>> hope you will!
>> And questions about spellings are excellent...I am only taking the
>> editing of literature offline, to lessen the email load...
>> Have a wonderful weekend everyone!
>> Val ;-)

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