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Tue Jul 11 01:41:24 UTC 2006
Hello Cherie -
The Rotation Arrows are nicely explained on these web pages, thanks to
the excellent illustrations by Steve Parkhurst:
and all the way to:
That is a lot to read. But worth it, when you have time...
I have to get away from editing and teaching now, so I can work on the
Ethiopian Handshapes and to add new symbols into the IMWA and to write
But we can come back to Jack and Jill in a few weeks, when all that is
I hope others feel free to teach on the List...the discussion of
Rotation Symbols used to be a favorite topic of discussion!!
CWren at doe.k12.ga.us wrote:
> OK, I know that rotation and travelling rotation are different, but...
> Take the sign for Christmas, for example. is one of the ways it is
> written in the Puddle. But its really not just a simple rotation...
> it's arcing up and over as it rotates... like this Can I create a
> curved travelling rotation in SignText/SignMaker? (Did this one in
> Paint) Same idea with TITLE/QUOTE... only the arcing movement is
> much smaller than in Christmas. I always saw the straight line in the
> rotation arrows as representing the forearm, so I always tried to
> place it close to where the forearm would go... Thats how my little
> brain made sense of the direction of rotation. If the forearm
> attaches to the handshape like this... then I could SEE the rotation.
> It made sense to me. ::grin::
> how is different from ? one has the forearm vertical, the
> other is horizontal?
> and are another set of examples... I don't have
> to write the rotation, even if it rotates, as long as I write the
> beginning and ending positions?
> Hmmm.. Obviously I have some confusion on the issue of rotations...
> Cherie Wren
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> CWren at doe.k12.ga.us wrote:
> > I wrote it the way I did because the hands move slightly out and
> down as
> > the forearms rotate... Your two versions make it look, to me, like the
> > hands move inward, ending up closer together than they started...
> Hi Cherie -
> No ...nothing is moving down or side with the Rotation Arrows you
> chose...if you want to move down, then that is a different movement
> To explain...The Rotation Arrows do not show any traveling. They mean
> "in one place", so even though they may look like they travel, they do
> not. The spoke or line through the arrow means your forearm...the
> forearm stays in one place while the rotation occurs around it, like an
> axis...the forearm is the axis or center of the rotation...
> Meanwhile, the beginning position, no matter whether it travels or stays
> in one place, must be at the beginning of the arrow, and the ending
> position must be at the end of the arrow...that is the logic behind
> beginning and ending positions...both positions do not have to be
> written as you know, but if you want them to actually move down
> diagonally then I can see why you wrote both positions...
> We can discuss other ways to write QUOTE too...
> See attached...
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