Rotation Arrows

[Valerie Sutton]

Hello Cherie -
The Rotation Arrows are nicely explained on these web pages, thanks to 
the excellent illustrations by Steve Parkhurst:

http://signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less011.html

and all the way to:

http://www.signwriting.org/lessons/elessons/less015.html

That is a lot to read. But worth it, when you have time...

I have to get away from editing and teaching now, so I can work on the 
Ethiopian Handshapes and to add new symbols into the IMWA and to write 
our grant...

But we can come back to Jack and Jill in a few weeks, when all that is 
done!

I hope others feel free to teach on the List...the discussion of 
Rotation Symbols used to be a favorite topic of discussion!!

Val ;-)

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CWren at doe.k12.ga.us wrote:
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> OK, I know that rotation and travelling rotation are different, but... 
>  Take the sign for Christmas, for example.   is one of the ways it is 
> written in the Puddle.  But its really not just a simple rotation... 
>  it's arcing up and over as it rotates...  like this Can I create a 
> curved travelling rotation in SignText/SignMaker? (Did this one in 
> Paint)   Same idea with TITLE/QUOTE...  only the arcing movement is 
> much smaller than in Christmas.  I always saw the straight line in the 
> rotation arrows as representing the forearm, so I always tried to 
> place it close to where the forearm would go...  Thats how my little 
> brain made sense of the direction of rotation.  If the forearm 
> attaches to the handshape like this... then I could SEE the rotation. 
>  It made sense to me.  ::grin::
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> how is        different from  ?     one has the forearm vertical, the 
> other is horizontal? 
>         and             are another set of examples...  I don't have 
> to write the rotation, even if it rotates, as long as I write the 
> beginning and ending positions?
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> Hmmm.. Obviously I have some confusion on the issue of rotations...
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> CWren at doe.k12.ga.us wrote:
> >  I wrote it the way I did because the hands move slightly out and 
> down as
> > the forearms rotate...  Your two versions make it look, to me, like the
> > hands move inward, ending up closer together than they started...
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> Hi Cherie -
> No ...nothing is moving down or side with the Rotation Arrows you
> chose...if you want to move down, then that is a different movement 
> arrow...
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> To explain...The Rotation Arrows do not show any traveling. They mean
> "in one place", so even though they may look like they travel, they do
> not. The spoke or line through  the arrow means your forearm...the
> forearm stays in one place while the  rotation occurs around it, like an
> axis...the forearm is the axis or center of the rotation...
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> Meanwhile, the beginning position, no matter whether it travels or stays
>  in one place, must be at the beginning of the arrow, and the ending
> position must be at the end of the arrow...that is the logic behind
> beginning and ending positions...both positions do not have to be
> written as you know, but if you want them to actually move down
> diagonally then I can see why you wrote both positions...
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> We can discuss other ways to write QUOTE too...
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