UK Deaf leader argues for video technology

[Shane Gilchrist O hEorpa]

Stuart is right - Gallaudet is loyal to Stokoe, thinking that SW is
another notation system (which it ISN'T!)

once we slip SW into Gallaudet, it will change - unfair i know...but
we will get there eventually.

Where are you based, Stuart?

Shane

On 19/10/06, Stuart Thiessen <sw at passitonservices.org> wrote:
> Here, the local teacher (hearing) said that he would not even consider
> use of SignWriting until Deaf people use it. I told him, "2 Deaf people
> are right now telling you it is a good idea!!!  ;-)"  Really, what he
> means is until NAD or Gallaudet or some formal group adopts SignWriting
> as a writing system for ASL, he won't consider it.
>
> But I agree with Valerie. First time, they may be resistant or
> hesitant, but if we are patient, they will realize the benefits of the
> system.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stuart Thiessen
>
> On Oct 19, 2006, at 13:15, Bill Reese wrote:
>
> > Val,
> >
> > Last night my late-deaf group had one of it's regular coffee socials
> > and a sign teacher from a local college showed up with her class of
> > about 10 hearing students.  I showed her www.signwriting.org on my
> > sidekick and she admitted that she had looked at it a couple months
> > ago.  Her students are just beginners and most are taking sign as
> > their required foreign language.  As such, most won't be going far
> > with it.  The teacher suggested that signwriting would most likely fit
> > in with the sign language structure class, which is normally a fourth
> > semester class in sign instruction.  I asked her to pass the word
> > along to the teacher of that class.  Not sure where it will get but a
> > couple of her beginning students snuck a look at what I was showing
> > her and expressed curiousity.
> > This was probably the first time I had received constructive dialogue
> > instead of skepticism from a local teacher.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> > If it's anything like the UK, it will be a long ways to go
> >
> > Valerie Sutton wrote:
> >> SignWriting List
> >> October 19, 2006
> >>
> >> Ha! Well...my experience is that it takes around three times, before
> >> people become convinced to look at it...
> >>
> >> The first time they are against it, the second time they discuss it
> >> more, and the third time they decide to look at it...
> >>
> >> So maybe in time he will come around, as others write BSL around
> >> him...
> >>
> >> reading and writing English took centuries to become established...so
> >> there is hope!
> >>
> >> Val ;-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 19, 2006, at 9:46 AM, Shane Gilchrist O hEorpa wrote:
> >>
> >>> I did invite him :-)
> >>>
> >>> He said he have better things to do...
> >>>
> >>> (!)
> >>>
> >>> :-)
> >>>
> >>> Shane
> >>>
> >>> On 19/10/06, Valerie Sutton <signwriting at mac.com> wrote:
> >>>> SignWriting List
> >>>> October 19, 2006
> >>>>
> >>>> Shane Gilchrist O hEorpa in Belfast wrote:
> >>>> > Was talking to a deaf leader in England about that system - he
> >>>> said
> >>>> > that its no good - what with the development in video technology
> >>>> i.e.
> >>>> > video messages etc - so why the signwriting etc?
> >>>> >
> >>>> > I said having videomessages etc will not improve kids' literacy in
> >>>> > BSL/NISL but having SW will do.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > beside, technology isnt good at keeping stuff - SW can be printed
> >>>> on
> >>>> > any paper and that they ll be still there 500 years away :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello Shane and Everyone!
> >>>>
> >>>> Those are good points, Shane...
> >>>>
> >>>> So did you invite the Deaf leader to the SignWriting Workshop on Oct
> >>>> 27th at DCAL? ;-))
> >>>>
> >>>> Double-dare him to come to the workshop to see if he has the courage
> >>>> to look at it...
> >>>>
> >>>> When people give me the video argument, I say:
> >>>>
> >>>> "People did not stop writing English when audio recording equipment
> >>>> was invented!"
> >>>>
> >>>> Written English transcripts are very helpful combined with audio
> >>>> CDs ;-))
> >>>>
> >>>> No different with written Sign Language and videos...they help each
> >>>> other....
> >>>>
> >>>> I know you know this, Shane...I am just spouting off right now - ha!
> >>>>
> >>>> Val ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
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