Hi Val, recently I found, that on some handshapes it is not possible to apply "place over". for example handshape 4 thanks Honza ____________________________________________ SW-L SignWriting List Post Message SW-L at majordomo.valenciacc.edu List Archives and Help http://www.signwriting.org/forums/swlist/ Change Email Settings http://majordomo.valenciacc.edu/mailman/listinfo/sw-l