NO, that did not work..

Valerie Sutton signwriting at MAC.COM
Fri Dec 14 17:16:16 UTC 2007

SignWriting List
December 14, 2007

Hello Charles and Steve!
I am still trying to answer Charles' long message...

Am I correct, Charles, in assuming that you want the white palms of  
the ISWA 2008, so that the symbols themselves, when they are white  
palms, will not be transparent? That will be available in January  
with the release of the ISWA 2008.

So Steve - I believe it is a matter of terminology...when we say  
"background" that is a term having to do with the color paper behind  
the sign...but the symbols themselves will be what Charles is  
requesting, when we release the ISWA 2008...

I am sorry to tell you that i need to send out your T-Shirts now, and  
other mail orders...

So I hope to send you your T-Shirt today, Charles!

Thank you for your input...

And have a terrific day!

Val ;-)


On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Steve Slevinski wrote:

> Hi Charles,
> I'm unclear of a few things, so let's start with the basics.
> The IMWA is the current symbol set that we use for SignPuddle.  The  
> symbols are black, white and transparent.  Some of the handshapes  
> have white palms.  Some of the handshapes have transparent palms.   
> In the future all handshapes will have white palms. I will update  
> SignPuddle to the ISWA in January 2008.
> When I store signs in SignPuddle, I'm recording the build string.   
> I am not creating an image file.
> When I display a sign: I read in the build string, combine the  
> symbols, and create an image.  I'm using these sign images on some  
> of the buttons for the UI.  The buttons looks nicer when the signs  
> have a transparent background.  Since it was easier, I defaulted  
> all signs to be displayed transparent.
> I'm not sure of all of your complaints, but the easiest solution  
> would be to default the signs to display with a white background  
> rather than transparent.  This would not affect the white palms or  
> how handshapes look when overlapped.  This would simply make sure  
> the background was white when copied from a browser.  I would need  
> to update some of the internals so that the buttons used  
> transparent signs.
> A possible solution would be to allow the customize screen to apply  
> to all signs.  A user would open the customize sign window.  Select  
> how they want the signs to look.  They could click an "Apply to All  
> Signs" button.  Then all signs would appear with  the customized  
> attributes.  This would not change how the signs are stored in  
> SignPuddle.  This would only affect how individual users see the  
> signs.
> Regards,
> -Steve
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