SW Handwriting Course Lesson 1 Posted!

Valerie Sutton signwriting at MAC.COM
Tue Jan 16 00:39:11 UTC 2007

Jonathan -
You are mixing the Handprinting with the Handwriting...two different  
ways of writing...so that is part of the problem you are having...we  
can talk more about that later...Val ;-)


On Jan 14, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Jonathan wrote:

> I did my homework before Val cleared up the topless issue the what  
> was confusing some of the participants.  I wasn't confused but I  
> didn't do it the way Val expected me too either.  For the  
> horizontal flat hand I put a line through the symbol to show that  
> it was horizontal.   I did it this way because this is how I had  
> seen it on the website about handwriting (not this course)  I left  
> the fist with the index finger topless because I figured that if  
> the fist was topless the fist with index should also be topless.  I  
> didn't find it confusing, it just made sense to me at the time.  In  
> retrospect I would've made the horizontal flat hand topless too.   
> That way I would of had everything topless.  I think it is  
> confusing having some horizontal symbols topless and others not.  I  
> guess I could put an extra line through all the symbols but that is  
> two lines longer to write that the topless method.  It would be  
> nice to have some kind of a standard.  If we do things one way for  
> one symbol and another for the same position on another symbol, it  
> will get quite confusing.  But one thing I was wondering, is it  
> possible for all hand shapes to be drawn topless???????? If not  
> then we aren't any closer to having a standard for handwriting  
> horizontal symbols.
>     I also share Stuart's point of view about the gap not always  
> being noticeable.  In fact, when I was trying to show Allan to draw  
> the horizontal handwriting index finger that Val had written and  
> scanned from the fixed up web page which I had printed out, he drew  
> it without a gap.  I told him, "Your's isn't the same as the one on  
> the page".   He looked at what he wrote and at the printed page and  
> claimed that they were the same.  I told him to look again.  He  
> couldn't figure out what I thought he was doing wrong.  Then he  
> looked at it really closely and realized that there was a gap there  
> and fixed his lesson.
> Jonathan
> Stuart Thiessen wrote:
>> I am wondering though if there would be a way to distinguish the  
>> floor handshapes without the finger gap (at least where it is  
>> individual fingers. In printing, I don't have a problem with the  
>> gap because the computer takes care of writing the symbol. But, I  
>> think that it is easier to miswrite the finger gap when  
>> handwriting. Just thinking about when we are doing quick writing  
>> or notes in a class. it seems to me that we would want to have the  
>> symbol be distinguishable enough that we don't have to worry about  
>> the finger accidentally looking connected or something. Just a  
>> thought.
>> Stuart
>> On Jan 8, 2007, at 22:22, Valerie Sutton wrote:
>>> SignWriting List
>>> January 8, 2007
>>> Stuart Thiessen wrote:
>>>> I worked on it as well during my lunch hour today. I did have  
>>>> one question on page 5 of the PDF, and the second sign down. For  
>>>> the index handshape there, I don't recall seeing that in your  
>>>> list of handwriting shapes that you taught in this lesson. I  
>>>> wondered if we should substitute a different sign or if you  
>>>> planned to show that one but forgot. (I understand how that can  
>>>> happen.)
>>> Hello Stuart!
>>> Thanks for this feedback. You are right. It should have been  
>>> there in that lesson. I didn't really forget, but because it was  
>>> so late at night, and I was so tired, I thought maybe it would be  
>>> obvious that it was the same as the Printing...so I left it out.  
>>> Now I see it confused lots of people so that was the wrong call...
>>> So I will be posting this shortly...it is not on the web yet...  
>>> but here is an explanation...
>>> <IndexFinger.png>
> -- 

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