Deaf Residential Schools in the US...

Shane Gilchrist O hEorpa shane.gilchrist.oheorpa at GMAIL.COM
Thu Jan 18 09:31:49 UTC 2007

yeah, the real bother here is that in deaf education (at least in the
North America and IONA (Islands of North Atlantic aka the UK and
Ireland) is to achieve good written English (and in some parts, good
spoken English)

That is something we need to focus on - of course English is important
but its important to have fluent sign language FIRST - the
Oralists/Pro-English campaigners have now entered the next stage -
they say they support NISL/ISL/BSL/ASL as long as English is taught
FIRST (which we disagree - we want NISL taught first, English
afterwards) - but its good to know that they are now accomodating
(they dont have much choice anyway as pure oralism is now seen as a
severe form of human abuse and in breach of childrens' protection laws
in many countries now)

Stuart is right - we do need to work on a 'campaigning pack' - to
explain why SW should be used - it would be useful.

Val, maybe you can set up a campaigning subcommittee and ask people to
join the Subcommittee to look at how we can promote SW better in the
educational policy, blingualism, legal complications etc - im sure
Stuart is also interested in getting involved etc.

What do you think?


On 18/01/07, K.J. Boal <kjoanne403 at> wrote:
> I agree with you on that; childrens' books and instructions are usually a
> lot clearer than things written for adults.  I think it has to do with
> preconceptions; people expect adults to have a certain amount of knowledge
> so they leave out some things, but they put everything in very careful and
> simple terms for children.  Trouble is, many adults - especially Deaf adults
> - feel insulted if you give them a childrens' book to read.  We need
> something that looks more adult-level for adults.
> KJ
> >From: "Pauline Roberts" <capyboppy at>
> >Reply-To: sw-l at
> >To: sw-l at
> >Subject: Re[2]: [sw-l] Deaf Residential Schools in the US...
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 21:33:09 +0000
> >
> >Again Jonathan, you raise some good points.  I think children's books and
> >instructions are a great way for adults to learn from scratch.  I remember
> >when I was 18, struggling to learn chess.  A boyfriend brought me a
> >childrens book from the library he worked at for me to try and learn.  At
> >first I "poo poo-ed" the idea, but then when I saw the simplicity of the
> >instructions it started to appeal.  i.e.  it talked about the white army
> >and the black army, and each having soldiers that had to go across the
> >field in a certain way etc.   So certainly a good way in my humble opinion.
> >
> >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> >
> >On 14/01/2007 at 17:51 Jonathan wrote:
> >
> > >Val's 4 levels of Goldilocks is an excellent way for school kids.
> > >Should we expect adults to learn the same way?  Is there  a way of
> > >making it easy for without have to go through more boring steps that
> > >they may not humble themselves to do?
> > >    Looking forward to everybody's  remarks
> >
> >
> >
> >
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