wrist flex versus rotation

Adam Frost icemandeaf at GMAIL.COM
Sat Jul 7 01:00:20 UTC 2007

I wrote it that way because I couldn't figure out how to get the arms so that they are projecting out. 


-----Original Message-----
From: "Cherie Wren" <cwterp at YAHOO.COM>

Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:57:20 
To:sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Subject: Re: [sw-l] wrist flex versus rotation

I think so... I have never done much with the from-the-top view...


----- Original Message ----
From: Adam Frost <adam at frostvillage.com>
To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 8:39:00 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] wrist flex versus rotation

This would be the top view, am I right?


On 7/6/07, Cherie Wren <cwterp at yahoo.com <mailto:cwterp at yahoo.com> > wrote: 

The palm faces in to the body (with no change), but the fingertips rotate from horizontal to pointing down...  the movement, as I watch my arm signing it, is entirely in the forearm.  


----- Original Message ----
From: Valerie Sutton <
signwriting at MAC.COM <mailto:signwriting at MAC.COM> >

To: sw-l at majordomo.valenciacc.edu
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Sent: Friday, July 6, 2007 6:58:01 PM
Subject: Re: [sw-l] wrist flex versus rotation

On Jul 6, 2007, at 3:25 PM, Cherie Wren wrote:

> When I write the sign YES, there is a palm facing change, but it is   
> a wrist flex.  Initially my palm is facing out, then my wrist bends  
> and my palm is now facing down, then repeat.  CAN can be signed  
> with just a wrist flex, although you will more often see it with a  
> larger downward movement, but there is palm facing change.  When I   
> sign this sign, which I gloss as WOW, the angle of the wrist is not  
> changing, it is at roughly a 90 degree angle to the forearm, that  
> angle stays roughly the same throughout.  I think of (thought of) a   
> wrist flex as a change in that angle between hand and forearm...A  
> rotation I saw as that angle staying the same, but the forearm  
> twisting.
> cherie

Yes, that is correct. The sign for YES can be thought of as the back   
of the hand palm facing change, but it is a Wrist Flex none-the- 
less...you are right about that. So what i said before is not always  
true either!

For me, these symbols are so easy that I obviously have trouble  
explaining them.

And of course CAN can be a Wrist Flex as well. But both those signs   
do not Rotate at the forearm, as you said above...

What are the palm facings of the beginning and ending position of the  
sign we were discussing from Cat in the Hat 2? I had seen that as a  
Wrist Flex, but if you feel it is a rotation, then what palm facing   
starts and what palm facing finishes?

Val ;-)

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