multiple faces, changing eye gaze

Stuart Thiessen sw at PASSITONSERVICES.ORG
Fri Jul 13 00:38:27 UTC 2007

Hi, Bill!

The facial expressions themselves communicate grammatical information  
like Cherie commented. So we just need to have rules that describe  
how SignWriting handles simultaneous and sequential facial movements  
that occupy the same space so that the ASL grammar comes through in  
the correct sequence.

Valerie, I have privately emailed some ideas to you. Let me know what  
you think.



On 12 Jul 2007, at 13:05, Bill Reese wrote:

> In English, we might say "As she was opening the box she turned to  
> the audience with an expression that said, "Look!"."   Are we into  
> grammar here?  Could a sign conceivably have "grammatical space"  
> where things like this could be put?  For instance, could the face  
> be smaller to give it a certain meaning?  Also, in English we use  
> words like "as", "while", "after", etc. to give a meaning of time.   
> These words have no meaning apart from the rest of the sentence.   
> Could signwriting do the same?  Do we have a sign for "as" that  
> could be used with the face to indicate that one look, not  
> associated with the sign itself is being given during the sign?   
> Could we even give meaning to the expression so that we could put  
> the face apart from the rest of the sign, perhaps a bit smaller  
> with the sign for "look!" in parenthesis next to the face?
> Bill
> Valerie Sutton wrote:
>> I believe I found the sign on the video that coordinates with this  
>> writing...It is attached.
>> I believe you are trying to show, with the double eye-gaze, that  
>> you first look down at your hands down-diagonal, and then turn to  
>> look at the audience and that is the eyegaze forward? And the  
>> question is...what about the timing of those head movements and  
>> eyegaze, since one happens after the other? I need time to think  
>> about this one ;-))
>> Any ideas anyone? Val ;-)
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