Reflexions on wrist flexes and rotations

Adam Frost adam at FROSTVILLAGE.COM
Mon Jul 9 03:53:14 UTC 2007


Yes, the line for the wrist flex be seen to represent the wrist; very easy
to see in signs like YES.But the wrist can not only bend back and forth, but
side to side. (See attached) This is where the line does not cut across the
wrist as if to disconnect the hand from the arm. That is because the line is
not representing the wrist, but the pivot axis in the wrist. So the sign
that was written for WOW is not trying to show the palm change like this but
what I have attached which is a wrist flex. Hope this helps. As always, as
if you have questions and we will try our best to help you out.

Adam

On 7/8/07, Jonathan <duncanjonathan at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
>
> *Wrist Flexes*
> *General rules
> *
>
>    1. The line going through the middle finger is anchored at the
>    middle of the wrist line (point of pivot) but describes an arc at the end of
>    the middle finger.
>    2. The line through the middle finger is not drawn on the wrist flex
>    symbol but rather a line cutting the wrist over which the wrist bends.
>     3. Generally entails flexing the wrist.  Sometimes a rotation of
>    the wrist if it is already bent in regards to the arm.
>    4. If the wrist flex movement is in the same plane as the hand,
>    there is no change in palm facing if the beginning and ending hands are
>    written.  If the wrist flex movement changes from one plane to the other
>    there is change in palm facing.
>    5. The beginning and ending lines through the middle finger are
>    NEVER parallel that is never along the same line.  Both line ALWAYS have a
>    common point at the middle of the wrist.
>
> *What is confusing about previous explanations*
>
>    1. What the line represents in the flex movement symbol. Before, I
>    could never figure out which way to flop the hand.  It seemed logical to me
>    at the time to try and flop the hand around the line.  Which sometimes made
>    the sign nonsensical.  Valerie wrote *"In Wrist Flexes, the wrist is
>    cut by a line, which is the axis...so
>    the line does not represent the forearm...it is an imaginary line
>    cutting the wrist...I was wrong before..."*  I believe this means
>    like cutting the wrist off  the line separating the hand from the forearm.
>    Yes makes perfect sense for "Yes-Yes". But some signs just don't make sense
>    if this is the case.
>
> For example:   If  Yes-Yes is actually
>
>
> Then where the wrist line is not anywhere close to the wrist.
>
>
> Should be written with all the symbols as which wouldn't be a wrist flex
> at all but rather a rotation.
>
> It seems to me that it would make more sense if it was written as    But
> we don't have this a wrist flex symbol.  At least I don't think so.
> This is why it is so hard to define this line.  It's mean one thing for
> Yes-Yes sign but doesn't represent anything for the Wow sign except that the
> symbol is a wrist flex.
>
>
> *
> Special cases*
> When there is a rotation and a wrist flex simultaneously.
>  Could also be written but is much harder to read than just writing the
> beginning and ending hands.
>
>
> Looking forward to all of your comments.
>
> Jonathan
>
>
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